Crazy turbo talk

[Gamble]

So I have been reading up about turboing the camry. Mine is a 4cyl. I have a few questions/thoughts/ideas since I have lots of spare parts sitting around.
I can get an safc1 for next to nothing.
I have stock dsm 450cc injectors. Free.
I have a t25 turbo. Free.
I will need a manifold. $100 ish
SS oil line. $30
Wideband $200
Boostgauge $30
I have tons of left over 2.5" couplers.
I have a dsm smic.
Random piping for fmic. Say $100
Tap the oil pan for oil return. $50
Misc water lines. $50
Air filter $25
joepmbc $25
Custom exhaust. $200ish
Flange from manifold to mitsu flange for turbo. Less than $100.
Why does it feel like I'm forgetting something there?? Seems like I can do this for MINIMAL. And I inflated the prices. I have lots of dsm parts just sitting here.

[2wickedtoyz]

i fail to see the question......looks like you have what you need. and you can use the smic instead of the fmic.

[Gamble]

Basically has anyone used a dsm t25 turbo or dsm injectors? I'm not new to building cars, but never modded camry. I have a dsm that I built but that is apples to oranges. I don't really know much about the camry motor and how much hp it can handle same w/ the tranny before anything goes, but I'm thinking this could be a very very easy way to turbo the camry. The t25's can be had for cheap, I sold one in great shape for $60 .
Lots of nissan guys use the t25 on their 200sx or se-r's etc.
Just trying to see if this is going to be worth my time in the end. After all it is a daily driver and I don't want to see it go boom. I don't need the car to be "fast" I have soon to be 10sec car for that, I just need it to get out of it's own way and it would be something different.

[4Cyl'erThriller]

Question... Do you have an auto or 5spd? I wouldnt go throwing much if any boost at a 4 cyl auto trans. I think they are the weak point in this car. Just my opinion but Im sure there are plenty of guys that have slipping or crapped out transmissions on their 4 cyl automatics that would back me up on this.

[Gamble]

It's a slushbox (auto)

[4Cyl'erThriller]

Yeah Id prolly save for a 5spd. All i ever hear from a lot of the guys on here is that its the best upgrade for the 5s-fe and it frees up a lot of power. There is a member in Maine selling a chasis with a 5 spd. Needs a motor or head gasket. Heres the link. His name is Gabe. I was going to buy this car but I live in MD and the cost to pick it up would be too great. Might be a sweet deal If you have the time and money. Massive Gen 3 Camry 5SFE Turbo Partout

[bigbird]

never herd of anyone using the DSM injectors on these motors.

you might be better off buying a dsm with a blow motor and good trans or whaterver you can find. then youll have a lighter, manual car that you can easily turbo AND you could keep the camry as a reliable DD beater car. that seems like a FAR better use of the parts and money...would anyone disagree? personally, i would never turbo an auto 5sfe.

[Novice_cardude]

If you already have a built fast car, and/or a car that's soon to be a 10 second car, why bother with the Camry? They were never meant or built to be fast, so it's going to take a lot more time and money than it would to get, say, a eagle talon tsi and make that a badass street machine. If it's too boring for you as a DD, get something different. Or just drive your 10sec car to work

That may just be my more practical side talking though. It's your choice, and if you have the desire, honestly I think a relatively inexpensive turbo build on a camry would be awesome if done right. But sooner or later something expensive will break.

[92Camry5sp]

i'll chime in on a little of what i know, since i turbo my coupe once.

I once had a t3/t4 manifold with an adapter for t25/t28 turbo, one thing i realize is that, after bolting up the manifold to the turbo without screwing the manifold onto the head yet, the whole setup is sitting on the block, therefore, you cant use the adapter flange. Its better off to get the manifold from a mr2 and used the ct26 turbo.

[Gamble]

Originally Posted by Novice_cardude

If you already have a built fast car, and/or a car that's soon to be a 10 second car, why bother with the Camry? They were never meant or built to be fast, so it's going to take a lot more time and money than it would to get, say, a eagle talon tsi and make that a badass street machine. If it's too boring for you as a DD, get something different. Or just drive your 10sec car to work

That may just be my more practical side talking though. It's your choice, and if you have the desire, honestly I think a relatively inexpensive turbo build on a camry would be awesome if done right. But sooner or later something expensive will break.

It's on e85 and I'm still working on my fuel trims so currently I only get 130-150miles per tank with my mildly heavy foot and I drive 50miles a day at least that is why the camry is a perfect DD.
Here is my engine bay of my toy and it's an old pic, some things were changed

[PortugalFocus]

^^ Very clean engine bay and great job with the install.

[KiDGiB]

Originally Posted by Gamble

It's on e85 and I'm still working on my fuel trims so currently I only get 130-150miles per tank with my mildly heavy foot and I drive 50miles a day at least that is why the camry is a perfect DD.
Here is my engine bay of my toy and it's an old pic, some things were changed

Is that really the 4G63?
If your able to go that far, could it be possible to make the camry an AWD?
Very nice car btw.

[Gamble]

LOL yah it's a 4g63, thanks. I have put a LOT of time into her over the past 4-5 years I've owned it. She is never really done, but I am done for now. In the past year I changed a few things and she's now on e85. Last year she dyno'd only at 337 on a mustang dyno at 22psi overflowing the stock maf, and had a big boost leak and on pump gas. So since then she's on e85 and lower boost and I had to make my own gasket around the compressor cover where it was leaking. Just those alone the car felt wayyyyy stronger. Only thing holding me back is my small intake cam. The exhaust cam is fine, but if I can get enough flow out of my 1450cc injectors for 30psi and add a second fuel pump she should be easily making 500awhp on a mustang dyno. Goal is 10s on street tires so we will see what happens, hopefully the clutch will hold it. It's just a act2100 full face disc.
Aside from the machine work and assembly it was all done by me and tuned myself. Well I have been tuning it for along time, just when I get a good tune on I would change something and start tuning over again just to compensate for the parts that were changed.
I also have a few custom parts made, custom intake, heatshield, upper/lower radiator pipes, 3" uicp (not picutred, there is my 2.5" on there), custom catch can, timing cover and probably some other stuff, who knows I forgot how much was put into it.
But she pulls like a rapped ape and I don't drive it much I want to keep her clean. In the past 4-5years I have put on 19k miles.

[bigbird]

get outa here with that mess, cars like that bring a big slap of reality to our little camryland.

all jokes aside, if the camry is alread a dd...keep it that way. no sense trying to fab up some crazy kit with random parts when you already have a sick car to fart around in. if you really want to turbo the cam, do it the right way which means likely putting MORE time and energy into it with less results then your DSM.

btw...Ive never know what "DSM" stood for, please enlighten a noob.

[eyeball96]

.Ive never know what "DSM" stood for, please enlighten a noob.

Diamond Star Motors....see ya shortly Rob..do I get to drive the Coupe?