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Old 03-22-2010, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sick of drum brakes

I've had it with these damn rear drums. I hate having to adjust them every so often as they wear, and dread having to change the brake shoes when they wear out. I also tend to pull the hand brake a bit to hard, and that causes the drums to go out of round. It's already happened once before. Which bring me to why I'm going to do the swap now. The drums are a bit out of round, so the car doesn't stop smoothly. It has a bit of a "shudder" from 30mph down to a full stop. I've cleaned, checked, and adjusted over, and over. Even with the shudder, it still stop pretty damn good, but I'm done with drums. Honestly, I just want less hassle when it comes time for a brake job. The extra stopping power will just be icing on the cake for me.

Anyway, I'm going to do the swap this week end. I'm going with standard V6 Camry rear discs. I don't really care about the ES or Camry wagon having bigger rotors. I just want rear discs, and the salvage yard I frequent has several V6 Camrys to scavenge from. I do have a question though(yes, I've searched, and haven't found a definitive answer). Do I need to swap the distribution block as well? There's very little space behind the intake manifold where it is, and I'd rather not have to remove the intake, and bloody up my knuckles if I don't have to. I know that ASG14 has done the swap, and has a very inspiring DIY. However, it didn't mention anything about the dist. block.
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i believe that is not necessary.

consider ES300 anyway, the bigger rotor looks just so much sexier :p
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Eh, I'm still running the stock 14" steelies. Wouldn't be able to see the bigger rotors anyway. Like I said, I just want easy brake jobs, more stopping power, and the yard I frequent has several V6 Camrys to scavenge from.
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Well, after a a few hours of wrestling with 2 different Camry "corpses" in the salvage yard, I got the backing plates, parking brake assemblies, parking brake cables, calipers, caliper brackets, and all the other misc. parts to do the swap. I'm going to buy new rotors, and order a new set of SS braided brake hoses to round everything out. Kinda sucks though I already have SS braided brake hoses on the car. However, they're for a car with front rotors/rear drums, and My car will soon be 4 wheel disc.

Anyone interested in my old SS braided brake hoses? Again, they're for front rotors/rear drums. They're only 2-years-old, and still in great shape. I'll post an official thread with pics for them in the for sale section when I get this swap done.
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You should definitely get a new OEM brake proportioning valve from a V6 Camry of the same year.

Otherwise, the appropriate braking power won't be fully utilized.
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I did get one 2 weeks ago form a 95 V6 that already had the engine/trans pulled. I took a look at the one in my car, and there is just so little space to get in there, and change it. AGS14 did the swap without the V6 proportioning valve9as far as I could tell). I haven't read about any ill effects form not using the V6 proportioning valve. From what I can see, I'd have to remove the intake manifold just so I can turn a wrench to loosen the brake line fittings on the old valve. I'd rather not spend more money than is absolutely necessary.
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May need mc from disc brake vechicle also.
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Not according to this DIY...

Gen 3 and 4 Rear Drum to Disc DIY
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Well, after shopping around for new rear discs, I just went back to the salvage yard and picked up the OEM rear discs from one of the Camrys I scavenged. I just got them re-surfaced.

The swap parts I got on my 1st trip to the yard were $122. The OEM rotors from my 2nd trip were $34. The re-surfacing was $10 to do both rotors. New pads were $36.

So, I'm only down $202 for this swap. Not bad at all. Now I just need to fine the time to actually do the swap, and bleed the brakes this weekend.
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Update Bump...

OK, the SS braided brake hoses came in today. So, I'm actually $310 into this project. Still a pretty good price for a rear disc upgrade. It would cost me upwards of $1500 to to this to my 65 Mustang! Anyway, I have everything I need to do this swap now. I'll try to tackle it this Sunday. Wish me luck folks.
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Gen 3 and 4 Rear Drum to Disc DIY
That's my old car. And no, we never swapped the brake distribution valve. I believe the V6 and I4 part numbers are the same, and that was why. Never had any trouble. Check rock auto for part numbers if you wanna be 100% sure.
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Update...

Rear disc swap complete!!! everything went smoothly. It took ~5 hours just as the DIY stated. The parts bolted on very easily, and everything works as it should. Now, I think it's time to start scavenging for a twin piston front caliper setup!

I may not post pics because it looks just like the DIY.
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