some new numbers for the camry

[EEngineer]

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finally some real updates...

i just got two resonators installed to quieten things down a little for daily driving
and got my Greddy E-manage Ultimate installed and tuned

so the legend is proven.....the 3VZ-FE motor runs pretty darn rich at top end.

after 5000rpm at WOT...we took out about 12~15% fuel at the injectors and gave it on average 5degree of timing.....

the car ran much smoother and breathed a bit better top end for sure.

eventhough i only gained about 5ish whp on the camry on paper, i got this after i installed two resonators which sucked about 10whp i'd say...

so afterall, i gained maybe 10~15whp on the 3vz camry if i still had the straight pipes.

but let's say if i had any sort of FI...those losses from the resonators would have disappeared...afterall it's hard to get NA horses...especially with an old motor that has god knows how many miles on it.

so...i guess i'm one step closer

[bigbird]

nice, it does sound quieter. sounds like your gettin the right pieces in place to make a real monster out of that car.

[EvoFire]

Damn look at that torque curve.... its flat. And 170whp/170wtq really isn't too shabby for a 16yr old engine rated on the OLD SCALE @ 185hp/190lb/ft.

So other than it running better, is it more fuel efficient now? Since you pulled fuel, I'm guessing it would be.

EDIT: I would probably be at around the same level as your car if I still had my Camry. Regular maintenance on the Highlander would probably have bought me a S/C already.

[Gothmog3VZ]

170 whp on a gen 3 is pretty respectable in my books

accounting for drive-train power loss (lets say 15%), you should be putting out ~192 hp at the crank. Could be more, depending on what the real power loss is (*ahem* Resonators *cough cough* )

That torque curve is one of my favorite things about the 3VZ

[Eye8Pussies]

^ lol worst math ever.... at 15% drive train loss, he would be at 200hp crank

[EEngineer]

167.9x1.15=193bhp

193bhp is well over the stock 185bhp...but not as good as the jdm one rated at 200bhp
but then my motor is not brand new...i estimate it to have around 100000+ km on there.
not bad....but now i've driven a 5 speed 1MZ supercharged at 7.5psi....i feel like my car is super slow

[EEngineer]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

Damn look at that torque curve.... its flat. And 170whp/170wtq really isn't too shabby for a 16yr old engine rated on the OLD SCALE @ 185hp/190lb/ft.

So other than it running better, is it more fuel efficient now? Since you pulled fuel, I'm guessing it would be.

EDIT: I would probably be at around the same level as your car if I still had my Camry. Regular maintenance on the Highlander would probably have bought me a S/C already.

as for fuel efficiency. i wouldn't know yet. i have ran too much fuel idling for this tank of gas...i'll do more accurate fuel efficiency calculations when i fill up again.

at this point, i'm so hungry for boost, I'm thinking if i should simply get a supercharger or not

[EEngineer]

Originally Posted by bigbird

nice, it does sound quieter. sounds like your gettin the right pieces in place to make a real monster out of that car.

i still like your megan racing one better.

[EEngineer]

quick pic of the new pipe setup

2 resonators and flat black painted pipe and muffler

[quangtran89]

The new pipe look awesome!

[Eye8Pussies]

*cough* *cough* I think some engineers on here have to redo their math a bit...

200bhp * 85% = 170whp


you're taking 15% of 170 instead of 15% of 200 in your calculations...

[EEngineer]

lmao my bad

[a94autoCamry]

nice numbers

[ekopel]

hey actually, quick question...when you did the straight pipes (similar to mine now im assuming - long tube headers, y pipe, no cat, no res, straight through muffler) did it make your car run ridiculously rich? I'm getting terrible gas mileage and losing a lot of power in the mid range RPMs.

sorry to thread jack, but it seems like you know what you are talking about with this...

[ashybone]

Originally Posted by ekopel

hey actually, quick question...when you did the straight pipes (similar to mine now im assuming - long tube headers, y pipe, no cat, no res, straight through muffler) did it make your car run ridiculously rich? I'm getting terrible gas mileage and losing a lot of power in the mid range RPMs.

sorry to thread jack, but it seems like you know what you are talking about with this...

I was just wondering the same thing, I'm getting OBX headers and plan on customizing a duel exhuast with just strate pipes and had this run through my mind a couple times.