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Old 06-06-2010, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hydraulic to electric fan; 93 V6

Has anyone done this conversion? The hydraulic fan is pretty dumb and doesn't work at all on my car and it is IMPOSSIBLE to find a new one. And would changing it over actually fix my A/C in some miracle? What would be some ways to check my A/C out also? Last time I used it blew the worn head gasket that the shitty car lot people sold to me.

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I've been wondering this too; my fan works, but it's incredibly loud when it's hot outside (has a moaning noise... like a low-pitch, no-boost turbo lol)
Wanted to replace it, since my PS cooling vane's fins are gone, so replacing this means no need to replace the cooler

Anybody?
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Has anyone done this conversion? The hydraulic fan is pretty dumb and doesn't work at all on my car and it is IMPOSSIBLE to find a new one. And would changing it over actually fix my A/C in some miracle? What would be some ways to check my A/C out also? Last time I used it blew the worn head gasket that the shitty car lot people sold to me.
why is a hydraulic fan dumb? have you even checked your PS fluid? it needs that to work. and whats wrong with the a/c? light flash? compressor not engage? just that vauge statement wont tell anybody anything.
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why is a hydraulic fan dumb? have you even checked your PS fluid? it needs that to work. and whats wrong with the a/c? light flash? compressor not engage? just that vauge statement wont tell anybody anything.
Hydraulic fans are usually reserved for anything that isn't a car, my mechanic said he hadn't seen one on a car with anything less than 8 cylinders in a decade or so. My PS is fine for now, the pulley has managed to snap off twice since I have had this horrible car, but it is full and running fine. IDK what is wrong with it but when I went to fill it my uncle's gauges spiked and it would of been unsafe for me to even charge it with out breaking some thing. It is very inconvenient in the summer in a black car in VA lol
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Hydraulic fans are usually reserved for anything that isn't a car, my mechanic said he hadn't seen one on a car with anything less than 8 cylinders in a decade or so. My PS is fine for now, the pulley has managed to snap off twice since I have had this horrible car, but it is full and running fine. IDK what is wrong with it but when I went to fill it my uncle's gauges spiked and it would of been unsafe for me to even charge it with out breaking some thing. It is very inconvenient in the summer in a black car in VA lol
the gen 3 v6 camry and the first gen LS400 are the only two cars i know of to have the hydraulic fan. about the a/c: take it to a shop have them evacuate the system and recharge it with dye to check for leaks. if it spiked my guess would be there's too much refrigerant in the system along with other stuff that shouldnt be there.
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pretty much the only way to get rid of the hydraulic fan is by either welding a cap (or finding a proper fitting) onto the outlet and inlet on the p/s pump for the fan, or by rerouting the hose around the fan (once removed) and then back into the pump inlets and creating a loop

either way works, but be very careful of any fittings used, as the p/s fluid is at extremely high pressure to run the fan


unfortunately, you cannot swap a gen3.5 or gen4 p/s pump onto the gen3 block on the v6's (if you have one), as the pulleys will not line up. I found this out the hard way when I swapped from a gen3 (94 1mz-fe) block to a gen3.5 (95 1mzfe) block and tried to use my 94 p/s pump.
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post the pump issue go for the 3.5 fans direct bolt up and you need to get a dual speed fan relay kit
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Its just a banjo bolt from the line to the actual fan, maybe just a nut and bolt with a crush washer? Zip-tie the line somewhere? I'm sure you could cap it somehow. Use caution though, lotsa PSI in there.

Cut the old fan housing out, insert Flexalite/whatever brand electric fan in its place, wire to relay/switch/temp sensor, mount fan.

I haven't done this but it seems pretty straight-forward. The hydraulically operated fan was sheer genius in years passed, not so much in anything this new though. If given a reason to replace mine I'd go electric but it functions perfectly.
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I like my hydraulic fan on my 93 3VZFE!
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take your fan out and clean it. change the inline filter also. get an aftermarket oil cooler and replace your damaged one. sc400 also had hydrolic fans btw. your a/c is acting up cause there is a clog in the line. your expansion valve may need to be replaced aswell as your dryer.

i have had no problems with my hydrolic fan and my cars are @ 250k miles
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No problems with my fan either, they are really simple inside.
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take your fan out and clean it. change the inline filter also. get an aftermarket oil cooler and replace your damaged one. sc400 also had hydrolic fans btw. your a/c is acting up cause there is a clog in the line. your expansion valve may need to be replaced aswell as your dryer.

i have had no problems with my hydrolic fan and my cars are @ 250k miles
Clean what part of it? I have always been able to stop the fan with my bare hand since my parents bought me this fuck up of a car. And where is the in line filter at? I can't find my haynes manual
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is your engine bay dirty? clean it
then you can see if it is leaking.

the filter in that thing on the radiator to th left of the fan that the hose goes into and comes out from.

another problem could be your powersteering pump may be faulty. but check the other stuff first.
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