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I was thinking lately about putting in an auxiliary cooler for the A140E. Maybe it might last a bit longer. Install would be pretty straight forward, I think. Couple questions:
1) Where might I install the cooler? Think I have enough room behind the grille?
2) Am I going to end up adding additional fluid? If so, how much might that be?
3) Where is a good source for these, and how big should I go? I was going to try to get the smallest one I can, I won't ever tow with it, anyway. Or, is all this thinking just overkill? Maybe I would be better leaving it alone...what do you guys think? BTW, I will be bypassing the stock cooler in the rad. Don't want to make things too complicated.
I installed the transmission cooler a month ago on my car with A140E transmission. I researched a lot before installing the cooler.
I see that you live in texas which is a "hot country"! A transmission cooler will certainly extend the life of your transmission.
I went with a B&M Transmission Cooler #70268.
Here is the link:
I got it from Amazon for $47.00 free shipped. Hard to beat that deal! Please note that its a complete installation kit and I didn't have to buy any new hardware to install.
This is the best and optimum sized cooler for our Camrys. Dont worry about over cooling the transmission, that wont happen with this sized cooler for our camrys especially in Texas or lower states. Unless you live in Alaska or Montana I would never worry about over cooling the transmission oil with this sized cooler.
I can get the photos of my aux tranny cooler setup if you want. I contemplated doing a Aux Tranny Cooler DIY for TN but chickened out later. However I could post the photos and notes from that install.
If you plan to work on the longevity of your tranny this summer do the following:
-Drop the pan, replace the stock tranny filter (its actually just a 100 micron pickup screen) $25.
-Perform a complete radiator (cooler) line flush as detailed on the sticky DIY on TN. $30. Use Walmart Dex-Merc compatible fluid 4 Gallons.
-Install a "magnefine" inline filter with micron rating of 35 microns. $15 each Get a bundle of 4 from Ebay for $60
-Install a B&M Stacked Plate type aux transmission cooler in the return line between radiator and transmission. Dont buy the tube-fin type of transmission cooler. That design is very dangerous and patently outdated.
-If you wish to keep your car for some more time use Amsoil Universal ATF for the flush. $100 for 2.5 Gallon Can at your local parts store. Yeah I know its expensive but believe me its worth it.
If you have any questions do post back!
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2004 Mazda6 I4 5-Speed Manual 115,500 miles acquired 01/21/2011 at 109,XXX miles
I have 2 of the B&M 70268 coolers after the stock radiator cooler on my T-100. I have them mounted low and out of the airstream going through the condenser and radiator.
Just what ever you do, don't use those plastic ties and tie them to yer radiator. They will eventually kill yer radiator...given time and vibration. Use the metal straps and git some bolts/nuts to secure the cooler(s) to metal frame.
You'll have more than enough space behind the grill. If you like yer AC cold, you might want to find a better placement than on top of the condenser.
You can go with an extra fan fer the trans cooler...it's yer choice. At least you'll be able to mount it out of the main airstream if you need to.
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1998 T-100 SR5 2WD auto, Roadmaster Active Suspension, 6½" dropped front air dam, 4½" drop full belly pan, 4° rear diffuser, 11" side skirts, oil catch jar, AC mod, aero cap, 67% grill block = 26mpg highway!
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Are you also monitoring temps of your transmission oil? I am kind of surprised....what prompted you to go for 2 coolers? Did you do an extended analysis of your temps by using a gauge?
__________________ 1995 Camry DX L4 178,6XX miles and counting each mile.... acquired 05/25/2007 at 129K miles
2004 Mazda6 I4 5-Speed Manual 115,500 miles acquired 01/21/2011 at 109,XXX miles
Are you also monitoring temps of your transmission oil? I am kind of surprised....what prompted you to go for 2 coolers? Did you do an extended analysis of your temps by using a gauge?
Not at the moment. I knew I was gonna eventually move away from the stock radiator cooler and go with the external coolers in the future. I'm still pondering what gauge setup to monitor the trans temp with to see if I'll stay with just the aux coolers with a fan or not. Eventually I'll put some sort of louver system to minimize the airflow at speed when I don't need the extreme cooling and increase my aerodynamic efficiency at the same time.
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Bug/rock grill in place...yes...it's just some aluminum gutter guard.
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1998 T-100 SR5 2WD auto, Roadmaster Active Suspension, 6½" dropped front air dam, 4½" drop full belly pan, 4° rear diffuser, 11" side skirts, oil catch jar, AC mod, aero cap, 67% grill block = 26mpg highway!
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Just what ever you do, don't use those plastic ties and tie them to yer radiator. They will eventually kill yer radiator...given time and vibration. Use the metal straps and git some bolts/nuts to secure the cooler(s) to metal frame.
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Well said!
I saw this post and said, "he needs to know not to strap those down...."
Good Advice!
Also, you want to KEEP the radiator cooler in series with the add on cooler. This will warm the trans up to temp sooner and help it live longer. I'm not sure which line is the return line to the trans, but use the return line AFTER the radiator cooler to feed your add-on cooler.
The amount of fluid lost working on the system is prolly about the same amount the added cooler holds. A descent cooler will likely list its capacity which is really quit irreleivent as you need to add and check the tran level when done anyway!
For that matter, flush the trans while the lines are disconnected!
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95 Cam, V6 1MZ, Auto A541E, LE >245,000 miles!
Yeah...I did the transmission cooler line flush before cooler and magnefine filter install and man.........it felt as if I was driving a brand new car...All the stressful noises that transmission was making on higher RPMs were literally GONE...I think the transmissions are much stronger than many folks imagine :-)
__________________ 1995 Camry DX L4 178,6XX miles and counting each mile.... acquired 05/25/2007 at 129K miles
2004 Mazda6 I4 5-Speed Manual 115,500 miles acquired 01/21/2011 at 109,XXX miles
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