window may be off track?

[Darchrow Enigma]

my passenger side window has trouble closing.... it tends to lean forward at the last 80% of closing....

i took the door trim off and checked the window, but it doesn't seem to be off the track, and actually i can't seem to see any visible problems.

i only took off the plastic trim. i couldn't see past the frame (part of door chassis) to see clearly....

how can i get to the window's parts?

[LynchburgCSI]

Didn't you ALREADY have a thread for this problem? You're car's probably been in a wreck. Easiest fix = replace the WHOLE door.

[Rall28]

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Not sure if this applies to your year Camry...but on the mid 90's if the mirror gets bumped hard, it can bind the channel behind it & it causes the window to kind of pop outwards at the rear ....towards the top as it closes.

Just remove the mirror and check the window channel behind it for any kind of binding or mis-alignment.

I figured this out when I removed the door panel & couldn't see any problems...so after putting everything back together, I just happened to pull off the side mirror to tighten a slight gap I saw there....
And low & behold, I noticed that the window channel behind the mirror was bent in..just slightly!!!
Bent it back with a small pry bar & presto...fixed the window problem!!!!

I don't know how it happened...the mirror had no marks on it, but I could see it was slightly out of alignment with the front of the door frame.


Sooo...it doesn't take much of a bump to tweak the window channel running behind the mirror!


Any way...easy fix... if thats your problem! Wish I'd figured that out BEFORE I'd removed my whole inner door panel!!!!




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[Rattlin_Steele]

There was similar thread to this a couple weeks ago (to which I still owe promised pics):

97 frt left window not tracking properly

Originally Posted by Rall28

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Not sure if this applies to your year Camry...but on the mid 90's if the mirror gets bumped hard, it can bind the channel behind it & it causes the window to kind of pop outwards at the rear ....towards the top as it closes.

Just remove the mirror and check the window channel behind it for any kind of binding or mis-alignment.

I figured this out when I removed the door panel & couldn't see any problems...so after putting everything back together, I just happened to pull off the side mirror to tighten a slight gap I saw there....
And low & behold, I noticed that the window channel behind the mirror was bent in..just slightly!!!
Bent it back with a small pry bar & presto...fixed the window problem!!!!

I don't know how it happened...the mirror had no marks on it, but I could see it was slightly out of alignment with the front of the door frame.


Sooo...it doesn't take much of a bump to tweak the window channel running behind the mirror!


Any way...easy fix... if thats your problem! Wish I'd figured that out BEFORE I'd removed my whole inner door panel!!!!

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That sounds like a pretty logical explanation. I wish I'd thought of this possibility before I started enlarging regulator mount holes. I did loosen up that front channel and even took the mirror off while trying to adjust my window tracking. Also vigorously cleaned the channel and the glass surface, but did not look hard at whether the channel might be bent abnormally (although nothing jumped out at me).

It seems like the problem most everyone has is when the glass gets close to the top of the door (2-3 inches or so) it begins to tilt downward toward the front of the car and come out of the rear channel. This also coincides with the point where the front edge of glass enters the area around the mirror. It's as if something begins to bind on the front and it pulls the rear out of place.

This can happen because there is a certain amount of slop in the regulator arms/rollers/bushings, etc. It was this way with my original OEM regulator and with the aftermarket replacement I used.

Rall28, can you elaborate on how you re-bent the channel? Did you put the pry bar in the groove of the rubber "glass run" and pry that way (or spread it apart) or did you just work one (or both) edge(s) of the metal channel that the rubber "glass run" sits in? Thanks!

On the wreck theory, mine was rear-ended early in its life, but the front window problem didn't appear for at least 6 years. Furthermore, going out and getting another whole door (and the likely paint job) is not a feasable option for me.

[Rall28]

[QUOTE=Rattlin_Steele;3271334]

Rall28, can you elaborate on how you re-bent the channel? Did you put the pry bar in the groove of the rubber "glass run" and pry that way (or spread it apart) or did you just work one (or both) edge(s) of the metal channel that the rubber "glass run" sits in? Thanks!
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I used a short 1x2 board, placed it on the outside of the door, resting it on the top of the door frame & the door…laying parallel to the window channel about an inch away. (I used this to brace my pry bar on to gain leverage)

I used a short pry bar with a wide head, to gently pry outwards, by prying inside the channel. It didn’t appear to harm the channel liner…but YMMV!

As I recall, the metal channel appeared kinda rotated inwards just a little..or maybe “tweaked” would be a better term…

Anyway I just worked a little at a time & when it looked good, hit the window button and bingo!!! Worked like a champ!

So it appears to me….if that small run of window channel gets a little bent or whatever, it throws the window off just enough to cause problems!


Anyway hope this helps!

****GRRRR…This about the umpteenth time I’ve typed up a long post on this forum…only to find when I hit post or preview…It throws me off & sez I have to log on!!!!
Of course when I do…I’ve lost my whole post!!!!****
It's cut & paste from now on!!!!


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[Rattlin_Steele]

Thanks! I looked more closely at the door I "fixed" and it might be suffering the same problem you describe. When I get some time, I'm going to try your solution.

[ajkalian]

[quote=Rall28;3271917]

Originally Posted by Rattlin_Steele

****GRRRR…This about the umpteenth time I’ve typed up a long post on this forum…only to find when I hit post or preview…It throws me off & sez I have to log on!!!!
Of course when I do…I’ve lost my whole post!!!!****
It's cut & paste from now on!!!!
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That used to happen to me, and I did the cut and paste thing too. Then one day I noticed that when you log in with your user name and password there is a check box "Remember Me". If you check this box you will remain logged in forever and you won't get dumped and have to re-enter everything. Check it out and see if it solves your problem.

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[Rall28]

[quote=ajkalian;3272159]

Originally Posted by Rall28

That used to happen to me, and I did the cut and paste thing too. Then one day I noticed that when you log in with your user name and password there is a check box "Remember Me". If you check this box you will remain logged in forever and you won't get dumped and have to re-enter everything. Check it out and see if it solves your problem.

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Thanks....just checked the box & I'll give it a try!


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[Darchrow Enigma]

Originally Posted by LynchburgCSI

Didn't you ALREADY have a thread for this problem? You're car's probably been in a wreck. Easiest fix = replace the WHOLE door.

i don't think it was me.

Originally Posted by Rall28

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Not sure if this applies to your year Camry...but on the mid 90's if the mirror gets bumped hard, it can bind the channel behind it & it causes the window to kind of pop outwards at the rear ....towards the top as it closes.

Just remove the mirror and check the window channel behind it for any kind of binding or mis-alignment.

I figured this out when I removed the door panel & couldn't see any problems...so after putting everything back together, I just happened to pull off the side mirror to tighten a slight gap I saw there....
And low & behold, I noticed that the window channel behind the mirror was bent in..just slightly!!!
Bent it back with a small pry bar & presto...fixed the window problem!!!!

I don't know how it happened...the mirror had no marks on it, but I could see it was slightly out of alignment with the front of the door frame.


Sooo...it doesn't take much of a bump to tweak the window channel running behind the mirror!


Any way...easy fix... if thats your problem! Wish I'd figured that out BEFORE I'd removed my whole inner door panel!!!!

you were right! i took off the door panel and the mirror...for the first hour or so i couldn't find anything. i spent the whole hour moving the window up and down, up and down...try spraying some WD40 on the joints of machinery that push/pulls the window... couldn't find anything. i was completely baffled.

that is until i realized that the channel behind the mirror IS the culprit. i didn't notice before because the bend in the metal frame was so clean, it looked like it was meant to be that way. i took off the mirror on the other side and checked, and sure enough...it wasn't bent.

i just got pliers and bent the channel back. it isn't perfect, but it's good enough that it doesn't apply pressure to the window as it is moving up. now, NO MORE PROBLEMS!

i'm still baffled how it suddenly started messing with the window. because i hit the mirror a long ass time ago, maybe last year, and only recently did it spontaneously giving me problems.