3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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Waste of $ as far as performance goes. Same as any intake mod goes with the 1MZ and 5S camrys.
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I have to respectfully disagree. In my opinion, K&N filters are always a great upgrade no matter what the application. I use them in everything I own. I have used them in about 10 different motorcycles, my Mazda truck, my old Cressida and am using a K&N style filter on my Camry. A K&N filter will ALWAYS flow better than the standard filter which results in more power and better gas mileage. Now it may not be a drastic improvement, but it's still an improvement.
Add on top of that you never have to buy another air filter and it pays for itself. I have even installed on on a Chevy Aveo and there was a difference in the power/mpg. It's a no brainer in my opinion, buy one and never think twice.
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2001 Camry with too many parts to list!!!
Last edited by twinjetguy; 08-01-2010 at 12:36 PM.
I purchased it. I doubt there are any performance gains, but I like that I never have to buy another filter.
I take it out every other oil change, wash it dry it and lightly oil it.
You are probably cleaning it too often. Depending on conditions, they recommend cleaning them every 20-30K miles. They actually filter a little bit better when they are starting to get dirty. Then again cleaning it every 6-10K isn't going to hurt anything either.
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2001 Camry with too many parts to list!!!
I have to respectfully disagree. In my opinion, K&N filters are always a great upgrade no matter what the application. I use them in everything I own. I have used them in about 10 different motorcycles, my Mazda truck, my old Cressida and am using a K&N style filter on my Camry. A K&N filter will ALWAYS flow better than the standard filter which results in more power and better gas mileage. Now it may not be a drastic improvement, but it's still an improvement.
Add on top of that you never have to buy another air filter and it pays for itself. I have even installed on on a Chevy Aveo and there was a difference in the power/mpg. It's a no brainer in my opinion, buy one and never think twice.
Better flow WILL NOT do anything for either of the Camry engines. It looks good on paper, but in application does nothing. It's been proven time and time again.
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The stock airbox already flows pretty damn well, and I think the only benefit and difference in general with any K&N filter is that you never have to change it, but of course you have to buy their cleaning kit.
They're rip offs, just like those tornado air flow intake horsepower inducing mega-machines on eBay.
The stock airbox already flows pretty damn well, and I think the only benefit and difference in general with any K&N filter is that you never have to change it, but of course you have to buy their cleaning kit.
They're rip offs, just like those tornado air flow intake horsepower inducing mega-machines on eBay.
Curious, if they are rip offs then why does TRD offer a air filter that flows better than the standard air filter? Is that a rip off also? So let's do some math, it is suggested that you replace your standard air filter every 10K miles. We will say that the air filter costs $15 (unless of course you buy a Fram and if that is you, then you shouldn't even post on this thread). Replace that 10 times over 100K miles and you're looking at $150 spent just on air filters.
A K&N costs around $50 and you never have to replace it. They come with a 1,000,000 mile warranty. That alone makes it a value. Now anyone who thinks that a K&N filter is a gimmick does not know what they are talking about. It is a proven fact that they flow better than a standard filter. Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know what they are talking about.
You don't HAVE to buy their cleaning kit either, but you do have to buy some type of air filter oil to re-oil it when you clean it. You can use windex to clean it with as well. Nevermind the fact that the cleaning kit is good for about 5 cleanings or more, clean it say every 20-30K, you are looking pretty good. Even a K&N with 30K miles on it between cleanings flows MUCH better than the standard filter.
Hey Chris, just curious, have you ever worked at any type of shop with a dyno? Have you ever been present when a car or motorcycle is actually tested with a stock air filter vs a K&N? I have, worked at a bike shop building race bikes for years and have seen the results myself. Not trying to flame you, but to compare a K&N filter to a Tornado insert shows you don't know what you are talking about.
K&N's aren't for everybody. A lot of people buy Camrys just to have a reliable car. Then again superchargers aren't for everyone, but they are definitely for me!
Curious, if they are rip offs then why does TRD offer a air filter that flows better than the standard air filter? Is that a rip off also? So let's do some math, it is suggested that you replace your standard air filter every 10K miles. We will say that the air filter costs $15 (unless of course you buy a Fram and if that is you, then you shouldn't even post on this thread). Replace that 10 times over 100K miles and you're looking at $150 spent just on air filters.
A K&N costs around $50 and you never have to replace it. They come with a 1,000,000 mile warranty. That alone makes it a value. Now anyone who thinks that a K&N filter is a gimmick does not know what they are talking about. It is a proven fact that they flow better than a standard filter. Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know what they are talking about.
You don't HAVE to buy their cleaning kit either, but you do have to buy some type of air filter oil to re-oil it when you clean it. You can use windex to clean it with as well. Nevermind the fact that the cleaning kit is good for about 5 cleanings or more, clean it say every 20-30K, you are looking pretty good. Even a K&N with 30K miles on it between cleanings flows MUCH better than the standard filter.
Hey Chris, just curious, have you ever worked at any type of shop with a dyno? Have you ever been present when a car or motorcycle is actually tested with a stock air filter vs a K&N? I have, worked at a bike shop building race bikes for years and have seen the results myself. Not trying to flame you, but to compare a K&N filter to a Tornado insert shows you don't know what you are talking about.
K&N's aren't for everybody. A lot of people buy Camrys just to have a reliable car. Then again superchargers aren't for everyone, but they are definitely for me!
You do have a point on the value over the life of the filter. If the OP can justify a purchase based on that then kudos to him.
However, I have an issue here. K&N air filters DO flow better than stock ones which DOES offer an improvement on most cars. However, we're talking Camry's here. The stock intake is basically a CAI which flows pretty dang well. Swapping out the filters on a Camry will offer NO IMPROVEMENT in performance. Even if you rip out your entire intake and put on an aftermarket one with custom piping you won't see a difference. Ask anyone on here with an aftermarket intake.
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Jesus fucking christ. I didn't know you were the fucking police of this forum, if I did, I obviously would have kept my mouth shut because I clearly don't know shit about camry's. You're totally right, I've never touched a bolt on these cars.
I'm not talking about boosted camry's, and I doubt the OP is either. I'm talking about your regular run of the mill daily driver camry.
As lynch said above, the stock airflow is wonderful. Even a CAI barely does any improvement because there's not to much to improve on.
Of course if you're boosted you're going to need something a little stronger.
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I have, worked at a bike shop building race bikes for years and have seen the results myself. Not trying to flame you, but to compare a K&N filter to a Tornado insert shows you don't know what you are talking about.
I never fucking said they were anything alike. I'm saying they're just as pointless.
And woop de fucking doo, you worked at a shop. you clearly know more than me.
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