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Old 08-15-2010, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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pulled my starter out, does it look bad?

Had problems with starting. The battery and all connections were tested as working fine, so next option was the starter. I pulled the starter. My question is, in regards to the solenoid how would I know if it was just the solenoid and not the whole starter itself? thanks







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Old 08-15-2010, 09:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just looking at it you wont know a thing. Do the following:
-Hook up the starter to a battery and use your multimeter to confirm its the starter. (Some electricals guy can chime in? Ken maybe?)
-Read up DIY on TN about starter replacement. This is the DIY by haux Starter Solenoid Contacts Replacement DIY (2000 I4)
-Order or buy starter solenoid replacement kit $30.00
I had the problem where you turn the key and nothing happens all you hear is the buzz of the fuel pump engaging. After 2 mechanics and being ripped off for $300 I decided to do above myself.
I was done in like 1 hour.And my car has never given me any starting troubles till now :-)
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Don't most auto parts stores have the ability to test starters?... or maybe I'm thinkin' of alternators?
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what was it doing before you pulled it out? most of the time its the soloniod. not sure about toyota's, but some cars your able to jump out the soloniod to make it activate. if that works then you know for sure thats whats wrong.
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Hard to say without running the tests in the FSM, but on my starter it was the copper solenoid contacts in the back of the solenoid. Every time you start the car a little gets worn away until eventually it gets so worn that contact cannot be made. I bought a pair of replacement contacts at the dealer for about $12.00 or so. They look simple enough to fabricate but since the dealer had them I went with that.
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That P shaped rubber boot opposite the lug for the battery cable? If ya pull that back, you should be able to ground the body and put power to the lug under the boot and have the motor run. If it does, look into the solenoid. If it doesn't, look into the brushes inside the starter motor..
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Took the starter to autozone and they said the starter works 100% fine. So now i'm completely lost...
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I have a question, not trying to hijack the thread, but what's up with the pink paint or dots on the rubber cable boot, and the other connector? I have that stuff all over my engine. Somebody pull it before?
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I have a question, not trying to hijack the thread, but what's up with the pink paint or dots on the rubber cable boot, and the other connector? I have that stuff all over my engine. Somebody pull it before?
hey don't worry about it
most paint marks (yellow, white, blue, pink) are coming from factory and all they mean is the parts are original usually, nothing more
not sure what exactly that is, but most parts on my both toyotas are visibly marked like that.
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Look into the Electrical Wiring Diagrams, for year 99 you can get them from here:
http://www.camrystuff.com/manuals/Gen4/99EWD.pdf

find Starting section and see the diagrams for starter circuit and check for continuity from battery down to starter and then from starter to harness and ground points it uses.
you might have a broken fuse, relay or corroded ground wire somewhere.

and FSM for Starting section with all other tests on this system:
http://www.camrystuff.com/manuals/Gen4/Starting.pdf
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Autozone most likely just checks the starter motor function and not the solenoid. You can easily undo the three nuts that hold the solenoid plate on and lift out the plunger. Check the other side of the plunger to see if the brass ring is pitted/corroded. Once you take out the plunger you will be able to see the brass contacts. Usually one contact has a deep groove in it and is pretty worn down.

Check out this link it has some good pictures of the solenoid assembly and what bad contacts/pitted plunger looks like.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/instructions.html

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