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Old 08-24-2010, 01:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen 4 Dogbone Swap

I just swapped a Gen 4 dogbone mount into my 94 5SFE after reading about it here. It helped the rough idle a little bit, not as much as I thought it would. But there is a huge difference in driving now. The car accelerates so much smoother now. I had slight vibrations at a couple of speeds while accelerating. Now its a smooth ride up to 70 mph. The original mount was shot. So it needed to be replaced anyway. Spending the extra money on the gen4 mount and bracket was worth it, IMO.
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I did the same on my 96. I bought good used parts though. Not much improvement, but it's better than the blown out old one.


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good work


but you guys do know that the gen3 and the gen4 one would work exactly the same...it's just that everybody is replacing a broken gen3 one with a new gen4 one...
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Yes, they do work the same. However, the gen4 DB is a better design. If it wasn't an improvement over the gen3 DB, Toyota wouldn't have bothered to redesign it for the gen4s. They would've just kept using the gen3 DB design throughout the gen4s.
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Off topic but Eye8....have you posted any updated pics of your Gen 3? I would love to see some good recent photos......
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I did the same on my 96. I bought good used parts though. Not much improvement, but it's better than the blown out old one.


Do we need to jack up the oil pan?
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Do we need to jack up the oil pan?
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I replaced the dogbone mount on the gen 3.5 but I got the same OEM one from the dealer. $70! The old one was shredded. I can't tell much of a difference but the car has always been smooth. And I figure a working mount relieves stress from the other mounts, which probably should be replaced too.
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^ well, if the old one was shredded, the other mounts are done. Because of that, the brand new $70 mount will will meet it's untimely demise in no time. Been there, done that.
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Yes, they do work the same. However, the gen4 DB is a better design. If it wasn't an improvement over the gen3 DB, Toyota wouldn't have bothered to redesign it for the gen4s. They would've just kept using the gen3 DB design throughout the gen4s.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, as we have seen many things on the camry that went backwards (or worse) once they went from the gen3 to the gen4

but regardless- it's pretty much all the same, and the price is the same, so a replacement is a replacement.

the only thing better would be a polyurethane replacement



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Off topic but Eye8....have you posted any updated pics of your Gen 3? I would love to see some good recent photos......

And sorry, not recently- I actually haven't driven it in months because I blew my coilovers and haven't had time to work on the car. I will in a couple weeks hopefully though!
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how hard is this job? im having bad vibrations at idle as well and people have suggested doing this. how much is the part and does anyone have a right up DIY for this
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I wouldn't be so sure about that, as we have seen many things on the camry that went backwards (or worse) once they went from the gen3 to the gen4

but regardless- it's pretty much all the same, and the price is the same, so a replacement is a replacement.

the only thing better would be a polyurethane replacement






And sorry, not recently- I actually haven't driven it in months because I blew my coilovers and haven't had time to work on the car. I will in a couple weeks hopefully though!
Got a polyurethane mount from Gabe, works like a charm
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who is gabe and does he sell the poly mount ?

i did the switcth from 3 to 4 and i felt more a difference when the transmission shifted.

In theory it has to be an improvement as the basic spring travel is longer in the gen 4 than 3.
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Gabe is another member on here his name is TRD4Life and you will mostly find him lurking around on solaraguy.com. He might be able to make a dogbone mount for ya if you sent him a pm
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