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Old 09-19-2010, 08:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Air Conditioned Driver Seat mod DIY

I live in Florida, and even with my a/c cranking sometimes my back will still get hot due to the fabric seats. So I just finished adding a/c piping and large computer cooling fans into my drivers seat on my 92 camry. Here's a step by step of what I did for anyone interested.

First I took a 4 foot piece of flex piping that I got from the hardware store and fitted it to one of the rear feet vents under the drivers seat using aluminum ducting tape. In order to get the piping to fit into the narrow vent tube I had to use a hack saw to remove a pinched piece in the middle of it and then I squeezed the piping in. As you can see I also taped off the other vent to force as much air as possible into the piping.





Then I also taped off the vents under the passenger side seat, I'm not sure how much effect this have, but I figured the less places for the air to escape from, the more effective the piping will be, and the people in the back seat can just deal with it



Next I removed the seat-back. No tools are required, the top has 2 button snaps, and then you squeeze in the sides and lift. Once I got the back off, I used a sharpee to mark where I wanted to install the fans and run the piping as you can see.



I then traced around the fans where I wanted them so I would know where to cut out the foam.





Once it was marked off I used a razor-knife to cut out the foam. BE CAREFUL not to press too hard and go through the fabric of your seat. I didn't cut all the way through for this reason, and tore the deeper parts by hand.



You can see in that picture that the fabric will be the only thing that will be between you and the fan now.

Then I took the first fan and popped it into the hole. I slid it in from the top to get around the metal support for the seat. **Make sure you have the fan installed so that it will blow in the right direction!



Then do the same thing with the second fan. This picture came out horrible btw.





You can see I cut a little foam away where the piping will sit as well. Then I trimmed the excess piping to have it sit just under the fans. **Make sure when you cut the pipe to size you think about having slack to slide seat back and forth. I slid the seat all the way back, and then did the trimming.





Then it was on to the wiring. I crimped both positive wires together and both ground wires together so I would only have to run one set of wires. I ran the positive wire up to the dashboard by tucking it under the center console. I ran the ground wire to a screw on the frame of the seat as shown. Same thing with the wiring as the pipe, make sure you have slack so the seat can move.











After the wiring was run from the seat, I put the seat back cover back on. You're done back there. It was a bit tricky with one person, but you have to hold the piping up in place where you want it, then slide and clip the seat back into position. The piping gets squeezed by the back enough that it doesn't need any more anchoring or support.







Now all I had to do was wire up a toggle switch for the fans. I took power from the fuse panel behind the change compartment. There is an unused fuse in there for seat heaters which I didn't have so I put the wire in under the fuse. You can take power from anywhere. I chose this spot because it is only a hot wire when the key is in the on position so I can't leave the fans on by accident. Run a wire from there into the toggle switch, and on the other connector of the switch, screw in the positive wire you ran from the fans.

Then I drilled a hole in the trim piece around the radio where I chose to mount my switch, installed it, and put it all back together.





And that's it! Air conditioned driver's seat. It can double as a heater when it gets cold as well which is a perk in places other than Florida haha. This came out better than I expected. With the a/c positions set to the dash and feet position with the fan speed half way, and the seat fans on, I can feel the cold air with my hand from about 2 inches away. With the fan full blast it's stronger than that. I drove around for about 15 minutes after I finished this and I could feel the cool air hitting my back through my shirt. I got the fans from some old computers in my attic and the piping only cost me about 6 dollars, so its a great mod for the money. This is a feature BMW uses and now I have it on my camry. You could do the same thing for the passenger seat as well if you wanted, and even wire in a separate toggle switch. The entire project from start to finish including the prep and planning took me about 2 hours.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great DIY! Very intuitive, definitely took a lot of thinking! I would never think of doing it that way. It's nice that you can also have heat (I'm in new York so yeah it gets pretty cold). I might do this if I get the time since it's so cheap! Any ideas on creating a more OEM look instead of having a piece of piping stick out like that??
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Wow, neat DIY. Can you feel the fan cases on your lower back since you removed the padding there?
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Not bad! Bet it works better than the A/C seats I have from the factory in my truck. The pipe coming from the seat bothers me a bit... but I bet it's worth it in FL.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hahaha this is awesome...!!!
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yea the piping looks a bit odd. I think if the piping were black and maybe rectangular shaped so as not to stick out as much it would look better and less awkward. But I don't generally have back passengers so it doesn't bother me as much as a sweaty back does.

Also no, I can't feel the cases when sitting in the seat. Even pushing with my hand it takes a decent amount of force to feel them. The padding is thicker than the fan cases are so there's a gap between the fabric and the fan face. Also that low on the seat back there is less pressure applied than is a few inches up higher. The seatback gets thinner the higher you go too, so as long as you keep the fans down towards the lower part of the seat and don't remove to large of an area of padding it should be fine.
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If you were really concerned about loss of padding you could put squares of fiberfill in front of the fans. It probably wouldn't cut down on the efficiency much but I didn't feel it was necessary in my case. Depending on where you wanted the fans that would be the best way to do it.
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Well, I hope you won't get radiculitis or osteochondrosis because of blowing cold air right into your small of the back....
Great work, btw!
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Thats a real nice DIY. Vote for sticky!
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Well, I hope you won't get radiculitis or osteochondrosis because of blowing cold air right into your small of the back....
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any ideas on how to spread the cold air more evenly..? it seems like it's only cooling one area, my upper back gets hot too y'know!?
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any ideas on how to spread the cold air more evenly..? it seems like it's only cooling one area, my upper back gets hot too y'know!?
Add more fans, extend the tubing and add holes to either side of the tube where each fan is.
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any ideas on how to spread the cold air more evenly..? it seems like it's only cooling one area, my upper back gets hot too y'know!?


maybe get a perforated hosing/tubing and snake it around entire seat....add more fans...my biggest concern would be speeds....you wouldnt want the fans running full speed all the time.....wonder if couldnt put a pot or something on there...kinda like a stereo volume knob type...since thats all a stereo vloume is is a pot basically. Or perforated seatbacking......lil more exspensive......


hmmmmm.....if i didnt have 13 other projects already in the working

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maybe get a perforated hosing/tubing and snake it around entire seat....add more fans...my biggest concern would be speeds....you wouldnt want the fans running full speed all the time.....wonder if couldnt put a pot or something on there...kinda like a stereo volume knob type...since thats all a stereo vloume is is a pot basically. Or perforated seatbacking......lil more exspensive......


hmmmmm.....if i didnt have 13 other projects already in the working
Adding a pot would be good. Esp since thats basically whats used to control DC computer fan speed anyways. Or a multipostion switch with different resistors wired inline if you wanted a few preset speeds.
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pretty cool. but that hose sticking out of the bottom of the seat would bother me. that said, ya wanted it done and made it happen, nice work.
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Maybe a design that doesn't use fans? I mean if you had snaked the tube with perforated holes throughout the seat, it would in itself already make the seat cool. And that way you don't have to run power lines to and from it. Just throwing out ideas here to improve the design.. I'm still stumped on the tube sticking out though, I can only think of painting it but it would still be there..
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