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I am using a set of NGK BKR6E-11 (nickel alloys) when I should have put in NGK BKR6EP-11s (platinum). I am about to change them now because I am not really sure about the negative effects of putting in lower type or colder ones.
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1993 Toyota Cresta Tourer S JZX90
1988 Toyota Mark II GX71
1999 Subaru Outback 5-speed
2000 Toyota Mark II IR-V
2003 Subaru Legacy BP5 2.0R
I changed the plugs on my sister's 2000 Jeep Cherokee 6-cyl and they happened to fit into my 5S Camry. About 18 months ago I put Bosch +4 fancy-schmancy whatever plugs in my Camry and forgot about them until a couple of weeks ago. Turns out the electrode on three of the Bosch plugs somehow protruded past the insulator (it was flush when new) over time and was causing detonation.
So I got the idea of "let's just see" and attempted to fit the Cherokee plugs into the Camry. They are the same except that the Cherokee plugs are about a quarter inch deeper into the combustion chamber than the Bosch plugs. I thought at first I might have interference with the piston tops, but turns out not to be the case.
Result? I think that since the plugs are deeper into the CC that it effectively advances ignition timing (I may be wrong - lemme get y'alls thoughts here); since the flame front starts that much closer to the piston top. The car runs better throughout the entire RPM range and city mileage has increased as well (maybe because the plugs are different, and don't have the hotspots) from 23 to 25MPG
By the way, the plugs that came out of her Jeep were NGKs - nothing fancy, no platinum/iridium tip, just plain old NGKs
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1996 Toyota Camry 5SFE 5-spd 329.9K - UNDER REPAIR
1997 Honda Civic 1.6 5-spd - 183K and 27 MPG average - Dependable DD and *small* family car
1991 Acura Integra 1.8 5-spd - 241K and 28MPG average - I'm game for a simple LS Vtec swap now...
I changed the plugs on my sister's 2000 Jeep Cherokee 6-cyl and they happened to fit into my 5S Camry. About 18 months ago I put Bosch +4 fancy-schmancy whatever plugs in my Camry and forgot about them until a couple of weeks ago. Turns out the electrode on three of the Bosch plugs somehow protruded past the insulator (it was flush when new) over time and was causing detonation.
So I got the idea of "let's just see" and attempted to fit the Cherokee plugs into the Camry. They are the same except that the Cherokee plugs are about a quarter inch deeper into the combustion chamber than the Bosch plugs. I thought at first I might have interference with the piston tops, but turns out not to be the case.
Result? I think that since the plugs are deeper into the CC that it effectively advances ignition timing (I may be wrong - lemme get y'alls thoughts here); since the flame front starts that much closer to the piston top. The car runs better throughout the entire RPM range and city mileage has increased as well (maybe because the plugs are different, and don't have the hotspots) from 23 to 25MPG
By the way, the plugs that came out of her Jeep were NGKs - nothing fancy, no platinum/iridium tip, just plain old NGKs
Try some A/B/A testing to see if what you're saying is really true and report back
I have Denso SK20R-11 plugs with 0.7mm gap.Original gap was 1.1mm and i reduced to 0.7mm for better performance.
I haven't tried that yet. Is the difference noticeable?
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1993 Toyota Cresta Tourer S JZX90
1988 Toyota Mark II GX71
1999 Subaru Outback 5-speed
2000 Toyota Mark II IR-V
2003 Subaru Legacy BP5 2.0R
I'd use NGK Iridium-IX. If you have the waste spark system then you can't use the NGK Laser Iridium, which has a platinum ground pad. The Laser Iridiums are good for 120K miles on Gen 5+.
I am using a set of NGK BKR6E-11 (nickel alloys) when I should have put in NGK BKR6EP-11s (platinum). I am about to change them now because I am not really sure about the negative effects of putting in lower type or colder ones.
BTW, NGK's G-Power is an inexpensive platinum solution over the plain plugs. It has a thinner center electrode for better firing performance for about $2.42/each on rockauto.
Try some A/B/A testing to see if what you're saying is really true and report back
Sorry, I was too hasty in the discovery to save the old plugs, but the trusty seat-of-the-pants dyno seems to indicate an improvement in power and possibly economy - I'm usually pretty scientific about stuff like this, but this last time I'll admit I was cutting corners - had other stuff going on
I guess I could get new Jeep plugs and new Camry plugs and do the A/B/A testing and see what happens - if so I'll start a new thread...
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1996 Toyota Camry 5SFE 5-spd 329.9K - UNDER REPAIR
1997 Honda Civic 1.6 5-spd - 183K and 27 MPG average - Dependable DD and *small* family car
1991 Acura Integra 1.8 5-spd - 241K and 28MPG average - I'm game for a simple LS Vtec swap now...
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