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Old 10-09-2010, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hear whisper when pushing the gas pad

I have a 1998 Camry. After the flex pipe is replaced (i.e. cut it out and weld a new one in place), I hear the whisper sound when pushing the gas pad during the driving. When I go back to the shop, the guy says this part is new and it takes time to carbonize. He asks me to drive 100 ~ 200 miles and then go back if it still exists. Is this bullshit?

What I'm thinking is that some place is not well welded.
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It's most likely poor welding done that left some gaps in the attachment points.

I still would still drive it for a bit before taking it back though and making him fix it if the problem persists.
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Let's see. I will drive a week and then go back to the shop.
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After driving a while, I still hear the whisper. Is there any way which I could use easily to locate the little hole(s)?
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After driving a while, I still hear the whisper. Is there any way which I could use easily to locate the little hole(s)?
You'll have to do it cold but you could use a spray bottle filled with soap and water. Look quick before the exhaust comes to temp and evaporates it before you can see the bubbles...
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you could always push your hand over the exhaust where it exits the car and feel if it has pressure too. this will confirm an exhaust leak if there is one. If there is no leak then it should build up pressure and try to blow your hand off the exhaust. If there is a leak there will be very little pressure or none at all and you will hear the exhaust escaping wherever the exhaust leak is
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He asks me to drive 100 ~ 200 miles and then go back if it still exists. Is this bullshit?

What I'm thinking is that some place is not well welded.
Yes - he is full of shite - you don't want it to carbonize since it will only get worse and may be a little harder to weld when you get back to his shop. I had a full exhaust done earlier this year and after driving it a mile or so I pulled a Uey and headed straight back to the shop and they fixed it on the spot. I got under the car and placed my hands around all the welds looking for pinholes.

"Here's one...wait, here's another one..."

Get it fixed correctly now and avoid troubles later. Besides, you also run the risk of getting exhaust in your cabin (mine does from time to time now and it smells awful...) And I'm still not too happy with the workmanship, but hey, this is Tennessee - can't be too picky I guess
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Yes - he is full of shite - you don't want it to carbonize since it will only get worse and may be a little harder to weld when you get back to his shop. I had a full exhaust done earlier this year and after driving it a mile or so I pulled a Uey and headed straight back to the shop and they fixed it on the spot. I got under the car and placed my hands around all the welds looking for pinholes.

"Here's one...wait, here's another one..."

Get it fixed correctly now and avoid troubles later. Besides, you also run the risk of getting exhaust in your cabin (mine does from time to time now and it smells awful...) And I'm still not too happy with the workmanship, but hey, this is Tennessee - can't be too picky I guess
hehe should have drove up to Pennsylvania, i could have put a nice bead on that exhaust

example: 1997 Chevy Cavalier Aftermarket exhaust I welded for my buddy
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hehe should have drove up to Pennsylvania, i could have put a nice bead on that exhaust
Somebody knows how to lay down a bead that's for sure.

The place that told you to drive around is full of it. A good weld will never leak, period, case closed, drop dead. They are just trying to get rid of you.

If you charged it with a credit card, put the charge in dispute. Tell them to fix it or you are going to withhold payment. Tell them if they don't fix it right, you will take it to another shop (hey Perkins you available?) and have it fixed right, and then you will take them to small claims court to get a judgment for what it took to make it right.

Print out a color copy of the weld that Mister_Perkins posted. And go back to the shop and wave the picture around, and tell them that you want the welds to look like this, or your are going to take it to somebody that knows how to weld.

Don't put up with shoddy welding.


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Yeah I'm available, I don't think that he wants to drive from Chicago to Pennsylvania but if you do I am here !
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Yeah I'm available, I don't think that he wants to drive from Chicago to Pennsylvania but if you do I am here !
I wish I could It seems better that I fix it asap. I have take someday off this week to go to the shop again. Thanks a lot. And keep you guys udpated
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Here is the follow-up. The guy who said "taking time to carbonize" tries to persuade me to replace more part of the exhausted pipe (of course, charge more). I said no. Then he used some glue (I don't what it's) on the welded part. The whisper was still there. So, I suspected that the part which was welded in had the problem. Finally, he agreed to replace the flex pipe with another one. After this is done this morning, the whisper is gone.

BTW, I saw he took a flex pipe from a big box which had more 7~8 flex pipes. I thought the shop used the poor quality part.
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Here is the follow-up. The guy who said "taking time to carbonize" tries to persuade me to replace more part of the exhausted pipe (of course, charge more). I said no. Then he used some glue (I don't what it's) on the welded part. The whisper was still there. So, I suspected that the part which was welded in had the problem. Finally, he agreed to replace the flex pipe with another one. After this is done this morning, the whisper is gone.

BTW, I saw he took a flex pipe from a big box which had more 7~8 flex pipes. I thought the shop used the poor quality part.


It sounds like this shop definitely does some shotty work.

That glue he put on there was either JB weld or Exhaust Compound (Black Goo).

Well at least you got it fixed.. I wouldn't recommend that shop to anyone though.

Glad to see you got it fixed though
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