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Old 10-20-2010, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation The death of a loved 5SFE... or is it?

I was t-boned today while making a left turn. Who was at fault, if anyone will be determined after they look at the intersection and realize the blind curve.

I was making a left hand turn on a green light across two lanes of traffic. There is a center turning lane, which I was in, and on the opposite side of the road, there were at least 15 cars in that lane, making it impossible to see the inner lane I was about to cross, so from my perspective, it was long clear and nothing was there. So, I inched into it to wait for the car in the outer lane to pass, and as soon as my passenger rear door left the center lane, a white 2004 Impala was there, and it smashed right into my passenger side door. The impact sent my car sliding into two cars stopped on the road I was turning into. Both were damaged, but only fender benders.

The Impala's airbags deployed, telling me that he was going faster then the 45MPH speed limit in that area, considering he slammed on the breaks, sliding and swerving for at least 20 feet before hitting me.




Engine was still running when i shut it off, so hopefully it's fine, just in need of body work... but it may be considered totaled.

It has 216k miles and i was trying to keep it alive with all sorts of after-market parts. So, you guys may see lots of parts up here soon if it is indeed totaled.
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I was t-boned today while making a left turn. Who was at fault, if anyone will be determined after they look at the intersection and realize the blind curve.

I was making a left hand turn on a green light across two lanes of traffic. There is a center turning lane, which I was in, and on the opposite side of the road, there were at least 15 cars in that lane, making it impossible to see the inner lane I was about to cross, so from my perspective, it was long clear and nothing was there. So, I inched into it to wait for the car in the outer lane to pass, and as soon as my passenger rear door left the center lane, a white 2004 Impala was there, and it smashed right into my passenger side door. The impact sent my car sliding into two cars stopped on the road I was turning into. Both were damaged, but only fender benders.

The Impala's airbags deployed, telling me that he was going faster then the 45MPH speed limit in that area, considering he slammed on the breaks, sliding and swerving for at least 20 feet before hitting me.




Engine was still running when i shut it off, so hopefully it's fine, just in need of body work... but it may be considered totaled.

It has 216k miles and i was trying to keep it alive with all sorts of after-market parts. So, you guys may see lots of parts up here soon if it is indeed totaled.

It's totaled dude.

It wouldn't be worth spending the $$$$$ trying to fix it. Better to let the Insurance have it and get what money they give you for it and dump it into a newer car.

I had a 91 Honda Accord that got in a wreck and it had less damage then your car and was totaled. I would of spent more trying to have it fixed then to go by a newer car.
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Well firstly, Glad your OK!

its going to be totaled.. no doubt.

You could repair this, but you would need to pretty much cut the side off another gen 4 and re-weld to your car. and that's to say if your frame isn't bent, which it probably is.. Everything is repairable most of the time, but its all in what the insurance company says and how you feel about the subject.

Again, glad to hear you are okay and you didnt have a passenger!
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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GOD. That sucks man. But it's totally totaled. Let the insurance take it, buy it back from them and pull the engine/trans and whatever other parts you can. They'll sell it back to you cheap as hell. Take the interior apart and keep it. Sell it even. Find a camry on CL with a blown engine or tranny and plop your engine/trans in there

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Glad you're okay. Nothing is more important that.

I believe it repairable. I done a few accident repairs myself; my Camry and my uncle's Taurus both needed a frame pull (aka chain and tree ).

This is just my theory based on the pics and what I would do to running condition. This is if the firewall and subframe is in good shape. A complete front passenger door with glass, hood with hinges and maybe hood latch, bumper cover with inner foam, R. headlight with corner lamp, washer bottle, and one steel wheel is needed. That all roughly around $300 at my local pick-and-pull (they have 4 rows of just gen 3 and 4 camrys, I love that place) I would then take off all the damage door, hood, bumper cover, ect. Replace the bent wheel. Square the front end and pull with chain/tree, sledge hammer. Check the b-pillar and pull it out with chain/truck of needed. Installed the hood and check for alignment with front left fender. Check for functional latch. Install replacement passenger door with old lock cylinder, shim if needed, and check for body line and gaps. The rocker panel will need to be hammered down. Install fender check gaps between hood and door. Reinstall inner fender liner and mud guard. Install new washer bottle. Install new bumper cover and inner foam. Install Headlights, shim if needed. The rear quarter panel can be hammer out and rattle-can primer any bare metal.

Again that's how I would do to repair it on a budget. Of course the body lines and gaps won't be perfect, and wheel alignment will never be the same but close. A FR strut might be needed if it's bent too.

I had a local body shop straight my Camry front-end. A big waste of $240 and 5 days, it looked the same as I brought it in. At home, a few whacks of the hammer, chain pull, shims and it looks nearly original.

I say go for it and learn some body work (or start with another car like Chris said)
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This is just a testament to the safety of camry's. Glad nothing's wrong with you, hopefully you can bring this car back to it's original beauty, sad to hear all this bad stuff has been happening successively together
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It seems Camry's keep us safe in all the recent accidents haha .

It really sucks though that it's going to be totaled (I cannot see that being repaired, truthfully the frame looks like that thing is ****ed). Glad you're ok Good thing it was the passenger side.

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Old 10-20-2010, 06:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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they total that - and you're okay? That's the most important thing.


Looks like the car held up fairly well...considering
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Glad you're okay. Nothing is more important that.

I believe it repairable. I done a few accident repairs myself; my Camry and my uncle's Taurus both needed a frame pull (aka chain and tree ).

This is just my theory based on the pics and what I would do to running condition. This is if the firewall and subframe is in good shape. A complete front passenger door with glass, hood with hinges and maybe hood latch, bumper cover with inner foam, R. headlight with corner lamp, washer bottle, and one steel wheel is needed. That all roughly around $300 at my local pick-and-pull (they have 4 rows of just gen 3 and 4 camrys, I love that place) I would then take off all the damage door, hood, bumper cover, ect. Replace the bent wheel. Square the front end and pull with chain/tree, sledge hammer. Check the b-pillar and pull it out with chain/truck of needed. Installed the hood and check for alignment with front left fender. Check for functional latch. Install replacement passenger door with old lock cylinder, shim if needed, and check for body line and gaps. The rocker panel will need to be hammered down. Install fender check gaps between hood and door. Reinstall inner fender liner and mud guard. Install new washer bottle. Install new bumper cover and inner foam. Install Headlights, shim if needed. The rear quarter panel can be hammer out and rattle-can primer any bare metal.

Again that's how I would do to repair it on a budget. Of course the body lines and gaps won't be perfect, and wheel alignment will never be the same but close. A FR strut might be needed if it's bent too.

I had a local body shop straight my Camry front-end. A big waste of $240 and 5 days, it looked the same as I brought it in. At home, a few whacks of the hammer, chain pull, shims and it looks nearly original.

I say go for it and learn some body work (or start with another car like Chris said)
hopefully when you pulled the car frame with the tree, you welded channels on the frame or something like that
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That Sucks..glad your Ok!
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sorry to see man, looks liek frame damage.
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hopefully when you pulled the car frame with the tree, you welded channels on the frame or something like that
Don't worry, I only had to pull the top radiator support forward about 1/2 inch on my Camry, nothing much. The Taurus on the other hand, had the subframe tugged over 4 inches to the right, not so sure about any frame cracks . It has been 8 month and the engine hadn't drop.....yet. Not my car anyway.

Am I the only one encourging Ace to fix his Camry?
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yeah man sad to say, but its gone....glad you are doing fine
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