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Old 11-02-2010, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Is 95 4cyl engine/transmission compatible with 93?

Well, we used to have 2 Camrys, a 95 and a 93. Today, my daughter totaled the 95.... and I only had liability ins. on it.....
Yes, the 95 had only 103K miles and the 93 has over 200K miles with a transmission that's going out.
My only hope is to save the engine/trans out of the newer car.
Do you guys think it'll be too expensive to do this?
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Well, we used to have 2 Camrys, a 95 and a 93. Today, my daughter totaled the 95.... and I only had liability ins. on it.....
Yes, the 95 had only 103K miles and the 93 has over 200K miles with a transmission that's going out.
My only hope is to save the engine/trans out of the newer car.
Do you guys think it'll be too expensive to do this?
Dallas, I believe they are compatible - in terms of expense, if you do it yourself, it's very cheap - a mechanic is likely to charge you a fair amount.

More importantly, is your daughter okay?
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no they are not compatible.

They are two different designs. They both have different Neutral Safety Switches

If you use a motor out of a newer Camry in your older car, the existing transmission will bolt up no problem. But you cannot swap a newer transmission into an older generation camry. Or an older generation transmission into a newer 3rd gen camry.

The only thing you could do to make the transmission work, is since you have both cars with harnesses and everything is to completely swap harnesses and ECM from the 95 to the 93.
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no they are not compatible.

They are two different designs. They both have different Neutral Safety Switches

If you use a motor out of a newer Camry in your older car, the existing transmission will bolt up no problem. But you cannot swap a newer transmission into an older generation camry. Or an older generation transmission into a newer 3rd gen camry.

The only thing you could do to make the transmission work, is since you have both cars with harnesses and everything is to completely swap harnesses and ECM from the 95 to the 93.
whew, I'm glad someone smart stepped in...thanks Mr Perkins (again!)
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Dallas, I believe they are compatible - in terms of expense, if you do it yourself, it's very cheap - a mechanic is likely to charge you a fair amount.

More importantly, is your daughter okay?
Thanks for asking, thank god she's OK! This guy in a GMC Canyon T-Boned the car and pinned her inside.... She didn't get hurt and got out the other side.

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no they are not compatible.

They are two different designs. They both have different Neutral Safety Switches

If you use a motor out of a newer Camry in your older car, the existing transmission will bolt up no problem. But you cannot swap a newer transmission into an older generation camry. Or an older generation transmission into a newer 3rd gen camry.

The only thing you could do to make the transmission work, is since you have both cars with harnesses and everything is to completely swap harnesses and ECM from the 95 to the 93.
Thanks for the response. I'm just exploring my options as to saving the newer car's engine/trans into the body of the older car.
Could both come out and be installed together in the older Camry? Plus the ECU I guess, if it's different.
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whew, I'm glad someone smart stepped in...thanks Mr Perkins (again!)

hehe its alright. I actually thought they were compatible and when I was changing the motor in my 95 I tried to install the 92 transmission I had sitting around and found out it wouldn't work because the NSS is different. So I changed the neutral safety switch over, and then went to wire everything up and found out that there was an extra plug on the 92 transmission thats not on the 95 harness. lol

Long story short , I had to pull the motor back out, separate the motor / transmission and hook the 95 transmission back up

The main reason I was trying to swap the transmission was because the 92 only had 86,000 miles on the motor when I rolled it. lol


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Thanks for the response. I'm just exploring my options as to saving the newer car's engine/trans into the body of the older car.
Could both come out and be installed together in the older Camry? Plus the ECU I guess, if it's different.
Yeah, if you completely swap the entire harness from the one camry (95) to the (93) and use all the computers, you will be fine. (You can use the existing 93 motor if its in good shape) You may want to swap over the exhaust too. You could use the 93 exhaust manifold, but I'm not sure if you will throw a code or not, because on the 95 camry it has a converter right at the manifold with two oxygen sensors right in line. the 92, 93 camry have the upstream at the manifold and the downstream is past the converter.

You can use either or 5sfe motor in either situation since they are exactly the same. The only difference is the computers are different, the earlier A140E transmission (92,93) has an extra plug, which is a speed sensor which a lot of people mistake for a shift solenoid, and the exhaust is different. The stroke, bore, intake are the same, and the sensors on the motor will plug into the 92 and 95 harness.


The only stipulation in this whole process is the manual transmission should interchange between 92 93 94 95 and 96


If you are looking for a good used early gen A140E, I have a spare with 86,000 miles just collecting dust. PM Me if your interested
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