Interchange guide : Gen 3 and 3.5

[Mister_Perkins]

Hey guys, I know we get a lot of questions regarding stuff interchanging from 92,93 to 95, 96. I decided to make this post to clear some of the guessing up.

Since I have a 92, 93, and 95 I can confirm 100% Everything listed is true :thumbs up:


Question:
---- Can I swap an early Generation 5sfe 92,93 into a 95,96?

Answer:
---- Yes you can. I've personally done it. The motor in my 1995 Camry is actually from a 1992 camry. The Interchange book says the ignition systems are different, but the harness plugged directly into everything on my motor.


Question:
---- Will an early Generation A140E Transmission work in a 95 or 96?

Answer:
---- No.. This is a common mis-conception. Even though the 92 and 93 camry motors will interchange there are some big differences in the way the 92 and 93 A140E transmissions work compared to the gen 3.5 camry.
----- 1. The 92,93 A140E have a different Neutral Safety Switch (Smaller Plug)
----- 2. The 92, 93 A140E Have an extra plug on the transmission (Speed Sensor)
----- 3. The 92, 93 Computers are different. If you put a 92 93 camry A140E in a 95 and don't plug the speed sensor in (Impossible without the 92 93 harness and ECM) The transmission will not shift correctly. The same goes for swapping a 95 96 A140E into a 92 93


92,93 camry NSS


95 96 Camry NSS (Notice the plug Width Difference)

Question:
Are there any other differences in the 92 93 vs the 95 96 ?

Answer:

--- 1. They have different
a. headlights
b. trunk lid plastic (where it says C A M R Y)
c. The front grille is different

--- 2. The Rear trunk plastics are different

--- 3. The Exhaust Systems are different
-----3a. The 95 and 96 have a Coverter directly after the exhaust manifold with two oxygen sensors right in plain sight
-----3b. The 92 and 93 have a exhaust manifold with 1 oxygen sensor, and the other is behind the catalytic converter underneath the car.

Pictures:










--- 4. The oil pressure sensors are a different design
-----4a. The 95 96 camry have an actual plug on the harness / switch
-----4b. the 92 93 camry switch is just a flat pin with a connector style that slides over the pin (Rubber boot to cover it)







That's really all I can think of. Everything else is pretty much the same.

To sum it up, you can swap a 5sfe motor into any 3rd gen camry, but the transmission is a different story. The only stipulation there is that you can swap a manual transmission over, since its all mechanical into any 3rd gen.

Also.. The Valve Bodies and Shift Solenoids are totally interchangeable between the two transmissions. So if the Shift Lock Solenoid, or Shift Solenoid 1 or 2, etc.. goes bad you can pull it off a A140E 92-96 and it will not have a problem interchanging.

Internal Shift Solenoid Part Numbers directly from toyota:

85420-32021 $193.88
85420-32041 $213.66
85420-20110 $110.23

[LittleWhiteBubble]

The tail lights themselves are different too. But the rear trunk plate and lights are interchangeable. So are the front headlights and grill. I've got 3.5 headlights and a grill on my 92. The only thing really different with the front bumpers is the slightly raised middle portion under the grill on the 3.5's which can be substituted for rubber molding on the gen 3's.

[Mister_Perkins]

Originally Posted by LittleWhiteBubble

The tail lights themselves are different too. But the rear trunk plate and lights are interchangeable. So are the front headlights and grill. I've got 3.5 headlights and a grill on my 92. The only thing really different with the front bumpers is the slightly raised middle portion under the grill on the 3.5's which can be substituted for rubber molding on the gen 3's.

Yeah all the headlights / trunk stuff can be interchanged. All I was saying was they were different between the 3.0 and 3.5.

[zythr]

The Auto trannys are also different, because the later ones had "fuzzy" logic in the computer program to cut down on needless shifting.

[Mister_Perkins]

Are you talking about the 96 Camry? ^^^

Originally Posted by Mister_Perkins

Question:
---- Will an early Generation A140E Transmission work in a 95 or 96?

Answer:
---- No.. This is a common mis-conception. Even though the 92 and 93 camry motors will interchange there are some big differences in the way the 92 and 93 A140E transmissions work compared to the gen 3.5 camry.
----- 1. The 92,93 A140E have a different Neutral Safety Switch (Smaller Plug)
----- 2. The 92, 93 A140E Have an extra plug on the transmission (Speed Sensor)
----- 3. The 92, 93 Computers are different. If you put a 92 93 camry A140E in a 95 and don't plug the speed sensor in (Impossible without the 92 93 harness and ECM) The transmission will not shift correctly. The same goes for swapping a 95 96 A140E into a 92 93

[Eric N]

Kind of a bump, but would i be able to swap over a 95 style trunk plastic piece to a 94? where it says camry.

[Mister_Perkins]

That trunk piece should swap over. Its removable .. I've never personally done it, but I'm pretty sure it will

[uibalnme]

Originally Posted by Eric N

Kind of a bump, but would i be able to swap over a 95 style trunk plastic piece to a 94? where it says camry.

Originally Posted by Mister_Perkins

That trunk piece should swap over. Its removable .. I've never personally done it, but I'm pretty sure it will

I've tried it, and here's what I learned. You would also have to use 95-96 tail lights with the 95-96 trunk center panel for it to look right. The gen3 tail lights, and center panel curve inward at the bottom. The gen3.5 tail lights, and center panel do not curve in at the bottom. So, if you only use the gen3.5 center panel, it would stick out farther at the bottom in relation to the gen3 tail lights.

It doesn't look to bad from a distance, but up close it would not look right.

[2wickedtoyz]

the headlights can only "swap" over if you change the front bumper and change the upper bumper support. otherwise you won't beable t bolt it up.

[4Cyl'erThriller]

Originally Posted by 2wickedtoyz

the headlights can only "swap" over if you change the front bumper and change the upper bumper support. otherwise you won't beable t bolt it up.

Thats not 100% true I kept the gen 3 headlights with the 3.5 front bumper. Just had to shave off about half an inch off the bumper from where the grille goes. This will allow the grille to sit flush. I dont know about gen 3.5 lights & grille with a gen 3 buper tho.

[uibalnme]

Originally Posted by 4Cyl'erThriller

...I dont know about gen 3.5 lights & grille with a gen 3 buper tho.

Someone on here has done it. I didn't like the way it looked though, because there was massive gap between the grille, and bumper.

[LynchburgCSI]

Other things different:
-Passenger airbags (94+ only)
-Shifter (automatic)
-Pre-cat (exhaust header)
-Hubcaps
-OBD gen. (V6 94+, I4 96+ for OBDII)

[Mister_Perkins]

Found out some more stuff today..

The 92 has a few different parts then the 95.

They include:

1. Power Steering Pump
2. low oil pressure sending unit
3. Coolant Temperature Sensor
4. EGR Valve
5. Alternator

[92Camry5sp]

Just so you know, not all 92-94 camry have the same headers as your 92-94. Most of the gen 3/3.5 headers are the same as your 95-96.

[Mister_Perkins]

theres actually a ton of differences year to year for some reason. It also depends on where it was manufactored (VIN Specific). I wonder why toyota changed so much stuff so often?!