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xpeed · 12-20-2010, 03:07 AM

Hey guys. I've went through couple of threads about offsets and spacers for the Gen 4 camrys but I can't quite figure out which spacers I would need for a good stance on the camry. I'm not planning on rolling the fenders so that is why I'm getting 17"s

I'm planning to get Work Emotions XD9s 17x8.5 offset +42.

I'm leaning towards Matte Silver.

I know lower the number, the inner the rim will go in, so what I'd like to know is what will my range of spacers be to have a nice stance. Or would getting a rim with offsets +35 be better? I'll probably just get Tein S-techs springs. No coilovers. So it'll be a 1.5" drop front, 1.3" rear I believe.

Or are my info incorrect? Cause I'd like to get it right without the headache of buying extra parts due to mistakes.

Thanks guys.

LittleWhiteBubble · 12-20-2010, 07:50 AM

If you're only running 17's you don't need to alter the fenders. Even with an inch of drop. Just use the stock overall tire diameter.

LittleWhiteBubble · 12-20-2010, 07:51 AM

I think the stock offset is around +30 or +35 on the gen 3, I imagine its the same on the gen 4.

Ahil · 12-20-2010, 07:57 AM

For a rim that wide, you're probably best of with an offset of +35 over +42 (this will also result in a wider stance)

Also, why get spacers if you can get wider offset wheels?

Is your car lowered? Because that affects the suspension geometry (lowering increases the car's track) and the wheels which you can fit

xpeed · 12-20-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleWhiteBubble

If you're only running 17's you don't need to alter the fenders. Even with an inch of drop. Just use the stock overall tire diameter.

Haha, I know that, that's why I said I'm not rolling the fenders. Just need to know the exact offset on the stock wheels for Gen 4s so I would know what kind of offset I'm looking for.

Ahil · 12-20-2010, 10:52 AM

stock gen4 has +40 offset (remember to take into account the difference in wheel width when calculating clearances)

LittleWhiteBubble · 12-20-2010, 02:45 PM

Oops I thought you said you were rolling them... my mistake!

xpeed · 02-12-2011, 03:07 AM

Quick question again. Will a 17x7.5 +42 wheel require some spacers for the Gen 4? I'm still a bit confused on how offsets work.

bigbird · 02-12-2011, 06:29 AM

http://www.international-auto.com/fi...eel-offset.cfm

or check out Tirerack's wheel tech center.

(i was trying to post the tirerack link but the tech page links kept poping up "auto source" or some shit)

with 8.5" wheels even a 32 offset will likely need spacers. so if you have a 32mm offset wheel and it still contacts the strut then you can measure how much more space you need and get a 5mm, 10mm, 15mm, ect spacer to compensate. best thing to do is to get the wheels, test fit WITH TIRES and then get the correct spacers instead of guessing. now im bettin that an 8.5" rim even with a stretched tires will require fender rolling. i know thats not being discussed but just because it doesnt hit the strut doesnt mean that it wont hit the fender.

now a 7.5 with a 42 offset will bearly clear, but it will. i would recommend getting 5mm spacers in the rear at least. so your offset becomes 37mm. in the 30s is the golden range for our cars.

twincannon26 · 02-12-2011, 10:55 AM

my 92 had 18in. is350 wheels for a while, i know you are looking at 17s, but hopefully the info will help. the front wheel is 18x8 +45, the rear wheel is an 18x8.5 +50.

with 225/40 tires, putting the rear wheel on the front would clear all suspension, but would poke out of the fender slightly. my car was not lowered at this time, im sure it would scrub under load if it had been, based on the "poke" of the front wheel.

on the rear, it hit the lower trailing arm to the point that it would not bolt down. i got some 25mm bolt on spacers(brings the offset to +25), and this cleared the suspension, but would scrub the fender under load. i rolled the fenders and it fixed the scrubbing for the most part, but it would happen occasionally before and after my car was lowered.

the front wheel (18x8 +40) would clear front and rear, no mods, no scrubbing lowered or not.

as far as stance goes, i was very pleased. the front wheel was almost flush, with a 5 or 10 mm spacer it would have been perfect. the rear was slightly over flush, with maybe a 1/4in of rear poke. i have vogtland springs on kyb struts, 1.4in drop all around. its aggressive enough to look good, but doesn't compromise ride quality or performance too bad.

***Silent Runner*** · 02-13-2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xpeed

Quick question again. Will a 17x7.5 +42 wheel require some spacers for the Gen 4? I'm still a bit confused on how offsets work.

Offsets can be quite confusing to calculate, when changing wheel widths are involved, but not impossible. I just did the numbers on my gen3 for example: with stock 15x6 alloys, the offset is about 51mm, with a set of 15x7 American Rac. wheels, its 64mm.,... I think. I just measured the distance from the back outside edge of the rim to the mounting hub, its 140mm exactly. This way I knew it would clear the suspension and inner wheel wells. From there, it was a matter of how much more the rims and tires were going to stick out of the wheel wells. In my case exactly 1" further out, all round and absolutely no problems with outside body clearance. Now if you go to a 8" with this guidline, it might start getting a bit tight! (2" further out all round) Drop a plumb bob line off the inner edge of you wheel arches, and see how much clearance you have from the stock tire/wheel combo. Its a "Wheel fitting for Dummies" system, but I have alot easier time getting my head around it and if I was buying brand new stuff, I'd rather buy it without the need for spacers!

Sounds to me like if your gen 4 has 6" wide wheels, stock, and +40 offset, then 7.5's will move the hardware too far inboard, and cause suspension/strut tower clearance issues, without spacers. a little

ONE_to_HATE · 02-15-2011, 08:01 PM

17x8.5 +42 will need fender work because its too far in where it'll touch suspension and rub inside. If you go with a lower offset, it'll be too far out and it'll rub fender lip.

17x8 +35 is where you want to be if you really wanna dodge issues.

xpeed · 05-05-2011, 05:25 PM

^ Thanks. Was wondering if a 17x8 offset 48 wheels will fit with no issues. It seems it'll be a bit tough fit without any fender rolling.

So another quick question. I'm looking at a 17x8 offset 35 wheels. It'll fit without any clearance problems? Would I need spacers to lessen the wheel gap from the fenders? Also, I've noticed that Camrys 92+ have two bolt patterns. The usual 5/114.3 and 5/4.5. Are they both the same bolt patterns because the wheels I'm looking at listed the bolt patter as 5/4.5. This is new. I've never seen a 5/4.5 bolt pattern before.

***Silent Runner*** · 05-05-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xpeed

^ Thanks. Was wondering if a 17x8 offset 48 wheels will fit with no issues. It seems it'll be a bit tough fit without any fender rolling.

So another quick question. I'm looking at a 17x8 offset 35 wheels. It'll fit without any clearance problems? Would I need spacers to lessen the wheel gap from the fenders? Also, I've noticed that Camrys 92+ have two bolt patterns. The usual 5/114.3 and 5/4.5. Are they both the same bolt patterns because the wheels I'm looking at listed the bolt patter as 5/4.5. This is new. I've never seen a 5/4.5 bolt pattern before.

Interesting! as it happens, I just bought a set of 17x8, +35 offset OZ's, for my 93 Camry! They fit great, no clearance issues. Oh ya, 5/114.3 and 5/4.5 are the same thing. The 4.5 is 4&1/2 inches, which just happens to = 114.5mm.