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Old 12-26-2010, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1993 Camry 5SFE - where is the radio suppression condensor ?

While driving up a mountain road this morning for a day of skiing, the engine on my beloved Camry died suddenly. As with others on TN, the problem proved to be a capacitor aka condenser which caused the the 30 amp AM2 fuse to blow. The capacitor is rumored to be near or part of the distributor/coil but I can't find it so hopefully someone can assist.

I am not a mechanic and don't know anything about electrical issues but I will do my best to explain the setup. The part I believe is the "coil" (part 0209019-02163) has two screws on the outboard side. On the back screw, there is a single wire attached. On the front screw, there are two wires attached - including the infamous brown wire which caused the problem and robbed me of a day of skiing. I unattached the brown wire, wrapped it in electrical tape, put everything back together and the engine started up immediately. (I wasn't able to attach a picture to this posting for some reason).

I can't see the "capacitor" which I understand is the root of the problem. I have seen it refered to as a radio suppression condenser with part number 191133-16240. If someone could tell me what exactly I'm looking for and where to find it, I would be most grateful.

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3rd Generation Here's some pictures of the capacitor

I'm finally getting around to posting some pictures of the radio suppression capacitor, and how to get at it. I have added red outline boxes to identify key parts. Bear in mind pictures are taken from driver's side, so image left = front of car.

From left to right, the red boxes indicate:

1. The external mounting screw for the capacitor, which needs to be removed from the outside of the distributor housing, so you can remove the capacitor which sits inside the housing).

2. The infamous brown wire from the radio suppression capacitor, the end of which attaches to the forward pole of the distributor's internal coil. If the capacitor is blown, it will prevent the engine from running and continuously blow the 30 amp AM2 fuse. The short-term solution is to snip the capacitor no longer has contact with the coil (see #3).

3. The forward pole of the internal coil, to which the brown capacitor wire attaches.

I will also upload some images of the fried capacitor.

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Same as above, different angle.



Again, same thing from different angle.
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Interesting thread. Most people will not bother replacing individual components and just replace the entire unit.
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3rd Generation An image of the blown capacitor itself

Below is a picture of the blown radio suppression capacitor. Picture quality is not great but you can see the molten grey plastic oozing out the top of the unit, where the brown wire attaches.

I purchased a new one from Toyota for $11 (not a typo - eleven dollars).

Hope these pictures help anyone dealing with this problem.

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3rd Generation Some further information

Here's some further information on the problem I had, for the benefit of whoever follows in my footsteps. The original symptom was the engine died suddenly while driving. The starter would turn over but the engine would not start. The 30 amp AM2 fuse was blown, and would blow each time I replaced fuse then tried to turn over the engine. As mentioned, the problem was the radio suppression capacitor / condenser which is a cheap quick fix.

Some further info here:

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/foru...showtopic=6852
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t522792.html
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t223185.html

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While driving up a mountain road this morning for a day of skiing, the engine on my beloved Camry died suddenly. As with others on TN, the problem proved to be a capacitor aka condenser which caused the the 30 amp AM2 fuse to blow. The capacitor is rumored to be near or part of the distributor/coil but I can't find it so hopefully someone can assist.

I am not a mechanic and don't know anything about electrical issues but I will do my best to explain the setup. The part I believe is the "coil" (part 0209019-02163) has two screws on the outboard side. On the back screw, there is a single wire attached. On the front screw, there are two wires attached - including the infamous brown wire which caused the problem and robbed me of a day of skiing. I unattached the brown wire, wrapped it in electrical tape, put everything back together and the engine started up immediately. (I wasn't able to attach a picture to this posting for some reason).

I can't see the "capacitor" which I understand is the root of the problem. I have seen it refered to as a radio suppression condenser with part number 191133-16240. If someone could tell me what exactly I'm looking for and where to find it, I would be most grateful.

Thank you,
Nemo
EXCELLENT INFO,THIS WAS MY PROBLEM ALSO,THANK YOU!!! THE PART # THE DEALERSHIP QUOTED ME WAS 19133-16240 ((ONE LESS 1) THAN YOU HAVE LISTED. GREAT POST!!! THANK'S AGAIN
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since the condensor is just a capacitor to ground you can just remove this (or clip wire) and replace AM2 fuse and limp home (without the radio!) while my condensor LOOKED melted it was not shorted to ground, it read out at 0.47uF. My coil was burned out!

A replacement cap would be between 0.2-0.47uF and ideally better than 600vdc
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