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Yes, 33 lb/ft was the original spec. I believe Toyota revised the plug tube seals because they had problems with them loosening up and the cover gasket leaking. The newer material supposedly needs only 17 lb/ft.
After letting it sit 30 minutes to 1 hour, retorque again.
I'll be posting some comparison photos of the original/"new" motors later. I think this new one has a tad more burnt looking areas than my original one did, but I'll have to review the old photos to remember.
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no, no 33ft-lbs!! even though Haynes says so and old FSM may say so DON'T do that.
use torque up to 17ft-lbs only, in like 3 equal passes (from middle to outer ones, evenly), e.g. 7, then 13, then 17ft-lbs. re-torque after 30 mins (or even after a month), but don't forget to re-torque (they WILL loosen).
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Yeah, the problem is with these valve cover gasket sealing designs. Toyota wised up and move away from this crap in Gen 5.
yeah, they are terrible. you over-tighten once (in order to overcome the loosening problem) and you either crush seal making it useless or you warp the cover
you torque down to specs and they still leak after a few weeks (that's why it needs re-torquing) ... who knows how often truly they should be re-torqued to avoid problems in future.
this designs sucks.
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I torqued mine to 30 ft lbs with the new gasket....I was gonna retorque it but after reading this I take it no need to retorque it again?! Should I loosen it or is it too late?
The cover should take 33 lb/ft without problems. That's the original spec. The seal, depending on the revision you got, may split if it's the new (probably harder?) seal. I don't know when they switched over however.
If it really concerned you and you used new and latest OEM seals, then you can retoque to 17 and check an hour later (or next oil change) to see that they remain at 17. If you use aftermarket seals I'd inclined to leave it as is. Retorque after a month or next oil change.
I personally don't think the dealer techs even use a torque wrench on these. (If they even use a torque wrench).
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I torqued mine to 30 ft lbs with the new gasket....I was gonna retorque it but after reading this I take it no need to retorque it again?! Should I loosen it or is it too late?
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yeah, I torqued mine (old gasket when it started leaking) to 33ft-lbs some time ago. valve cover didn't get warped either ... good point it was designed to withstand that, since original torque was that.
on new gasket however I was afraid to go above 17... if you have leaks from valve cover you will now what to do
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The whole gasket set was by "Payne" (Federal Mogul) but i'm not really sure what specs the vc gasket was. I think i'll just leave it alone like JohnGD said and check torque next oil change (pretty soon lol). Thanks guys....
Payne is probably an Oz regional brand. Here in the US Federal Mogul makes the "Fel-Pro" brand. That's what I prefer to use unless I need to go dealer.
For the lower volume productions you actually get the same OEM seals made in Japan. For example, head gaskets, exhaust flange and many valve cover gaskets (the large rubber band type). But as production picks up they shift them to either their factories or outsource them.
I'd just leave it and check later. They may end up at 17 anyway.
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The whole gasket set was by "Payne" (Federal Mogul) but i'm not really sure what specs the vc gasket was. I think i'll just leave it alone like JohnGD said and check torque next oil change (pretty soon lol). Thanks guys....
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I torqued mine to 30 ft lbs with the new gasket....I was gonna retorque it but after reading this I take it no need to retorque it again?! Should I loosen it or is it too late?
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