drum to Disc conversion question...a bit more complicated

[b2p1986]

So before I get dumped on for not using the search..:I will tell you that I did!!! I read through the disc conversion thread DIY like a good little forum member. Here is what I came up with thus far...the parts list is as follows (just for the rears)

Parts needed:
1: Rotors
2: Pads
3: Brake Hoses (I am under the impression that if I buy SS brake lines all around that I won't need this brake hoses...am I correct??)
4: Backing Plate
5: Caliper
6: Caliper Bracket
7: Parking Brake Cables (The 2 long ones from the wheels to resonator area, NOT the one on the e-brake handle).
8: All parking brake hardware on the backing plate
9: Caliper bracket to backing plate bolts

..Now my few questions. first I read somewhere that we can use a rotor from an ES300 which is in fact larger than the usual stock rotors from a camry? Would it be as simple as using the same caliper and pad on a larger rotor or would I need large pads as well (maybe a different caliper too)?

...Now as for the fronts, I just want to upgrade them. I will be using EBC sport dimpled/slotted rotors with EBC greenstuff pads since I have had lots of success with these in the past.

As for the front brakes..can I use an LS400 larger caliper along with the same or larger rotors?

I just wanted someone to clarify what my options are. In essence I would like better stopping power for not so much money. I have access to U pull yards too so I don't mind getting stuff used and refurbishing it.

...cam someone point me in the right direction on what's needed?

BTW my car is a 95 camry coupe 5sfe

Thanks.

[bigbird]

IIRC that list looks correct and yes the es300 rotors will fit witn no caliper or pad issues.

as for the fronts, are your going with the V6 upgrade? if so, you can use the ls400 caliper but its really not any better then the gen3 v6 twin piston calipers. IIRC there you cannot ruun larger rotors with the stock V6 setup hpowever. to run larger rotors you need the Eric Sol calip relocation bracket...which on a 5sfe is not gonna be much benifit to you. V6 brake upgrade would be more then enough.

[LynchburgCSI]

Originally Posted by b2p1986

So before I get dumped on for not using the search..:I will tell you that I did!!! I read through the disc conversion thread DIY like a good little forum member. Here is what I came up with thus far...the parts list is as follows (just for the rears)

Parts needed:
1: Rotors
2: Pads
3: Brake Hoses (I am under the impression that if I buy SS brake lines all around that I won't need this brake hoses...am I correct??)
4: Backing Plate
5: Caliper
6: Caliper Bracket
7: Parking Brake Cables (The 2 long ones from the wheels to resonator area, NOT the one on the e-brake handle).
8: All parking brake hardware on the backing plate
9: Caliper bracket to backing plate bolts

..Now my few questions. first I read somewhere that we can use a rotor from an ES300 which is in fact larger than the usual stock rotors from a camry? Would it be as simple as using the same caliper and pad on a larger rotor or would I need large pads as well (maybe a different caliper too)? Different calipers, different rotors, different pads. Same concept and parts list though.

...Now as for the fronts, I just want to upgrade them. I will be using EBC sport dimpled/slotted rotors with EBC greenstuff pads since I have had lots of success with these in the past. That's fine.

As for the front brakes..can I use an LS400 larger caliper along with the same or larger rotors? The LS400 front claipers are the same as ES300 ones, IIRC. V6 Camry's with ABS also had the same calipers. Just be sure they're DUAL piston.... although the single piston (V6 non-ABS) ones will work. The rotors are all about the same. I think you can actually keep your 4 cyl rotors if you like.

I just wanted someone to clarify what my options are. In essence I would like better stopping power for not so much money. I have access to U pull yards too so I don't mind getting stuff used and refurbishing it. If you can afford it, buy AT LEAST the rotors new to avoid warped rotors. Buying the calipers new is a good idea too, incase there are bad seals. But either way.

...cam someone point me in the right direction on what's needed? You've got it.

BTW my car is a 95 camry coupe 5sfe

Thanks.

WARNING. If you're going to V6 or LS400 front brakes, you'll need 15" wheels or larger. IS you get ES300/Wagon rears, you'll also need 15" wheels. The only thing you can do with 14" wheels are the sedan/coupe rear discs.

Other responses in BOLD above.

[Ryan01le]

so guys, for a guy with the gen 4.5 4cyl. would the parts from a v6 be pretty easy to swap over? anyone got an idea of how much it would cost?

[LynchburgCSI]

^ It's pretty simple if you do your homework. Cost... I did my REARS ONLY with mostly new parts for under $400, IIRC.

[Ryan01le]

Originally Posted by LynchburgCSI

^ It's pretty simple if you do your homework. Cost... I did my REARS ONLY with mostly new parts for under $400, IIRC.

$400?!?!?! man....... i wont be doin that for a while then, theres some ole boy on here who said he swapped for like $150, now i thought that sounded cheap, but man i was hopin for around $200- $250.....
well, would u say it was a worth the $ swap? i like u lynch u really help a newbie out and ur cool about it

[LynchburgCSI]

^ I like I said, I used new ES300 calipers, new rotors, and used backing plates. I think that cost also included food and some random little bits from the dealer (ASG14 did the swap, and I payed him for it). I'm sure you can get it down in the sub-300 range if you look around. Grab a parts list and hit up rockauto.com

[Ryan01le]

Originally Posted by LynchburgCSI

^ I like I said, I used new ES300 calipers, new rotors, and used backing plates. I think that cost also included food and some random little bits from the dealer (ASG14 did the swap, and I payed him for it). I'm sure you can get it down in the sub-300 range if you look around. Grab a parts list and hit up rockauto.com

cool, thanks man.....

[iovaykind]

I switched to rear discs for $60. Used rotors (I sanded and painted em) and used calipers.. pads were still good when I switched. So you CAN do it for cheap.. just need to find a donor car (preferably being parted out).