2.2L Small vs Larger Wix oil filter - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

ShawnTRD · 02-24-2011, 08:45 PM

So look up my 98 2.2L and Wix says
Part Number: 51394
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters

Number

O.D.

I.D.

Thk.

Attached

2.475

2.173

0.233

Now look up a couple numbers and found this.

Part Number: 51396
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters

Number

O.D.

I.D.

Thk.

Attached

2.475

2.173

0.233

Looks like the only difference is the Height: 3.402 vs 2.977 (0.425" longer).. And it don't see any reason it won't fit. And maybe I could then use a full 4 QT's of oil.

***fenixus*** · 02-24-2011, 08:49 PM

pmesfun · 02-24-2011, 08:53 PM

I use the larger Wix 51516 oil filter on my avalon also.

***fenixus*** · 02-24-2011, 08:56 PM

and I have a case (10 pack) of regular size 5s-fe filters (6 OEM left and 3 others) and another case of regular size 1mz-fe filters (8 OEM left)

I think I will start changing them half way the OCI to use them up faster LOL

ShawnTRD · 02-24-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmesfun

I use the larger Wix 51516 oil filter on my avalon also.

That a 5SFE?

pmesfun · 02-24-2011, 08:59 PM

No...1mz-fe.

***fenixus*** · 02-24-2011, 09:07 PM

also another alternative for 1mz-fe is the Purolator Pureone (yellow one) offering very good filtering, some say it's superior to WIX actually, but I actually don't know the longer height part number for 1mzfe on this brand, the regular size is PL10241. anyone knows?

for 5s-fe it is PL14477 (longer) vs regular size PL14476.

ShawnTRD · 02-24-2011, 09:10 PM

Just to double check I'm emailing Wix. I'll let you know what they say.

pmesfun · 02-24-2011, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenixus

also another alternative (very good filtering) is the Purolator Pureone (yellow), but I actually don't know the longer height part number for 1mzfe on this brand, the regular size is PL10241. anyone knows?

on a side note, for 5s-fe it is PL14477 (longer) vs regular size PL14476.

After some cross referencing and stuff I got PL20195.

***fenixus*** · 02-24-2011, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmesfun

After some cross referencing and stuff I got PL20195.

nice

now we only need a confirmation ... trying to look up the specs...

edit:

some discussion on them:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1354032

manufacturer specs links:

a) 1mz-fe 3.0L

PL20195 (longer)
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...artnum=PL20195
Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes
Height 4.74
O.D. 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I. 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B
Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on

PL10241 (regular)
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...artnum=PL10241
Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes
Height 3.36
O.D. 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I. 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B
Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on

b) 5s-fe 2.2L

PL14477 (longer)
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...artnum=PL14477
Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes
Height 3.52
O.D. 2.69
Relief Valve P.S.I. 14-18
Thread Pitch UNF-2B
Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on

PL14476 (regular)
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...artnum=PL14476
Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes
Height 2.93
O.D. 2.69
Relief Valve P.S.I. 14-18
Thread Pitch UNF-2B
Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on

I believe Purolator Purone are rated at nominal micron rating of 20 microns. they claim those filters work 99.9% efficient.
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...ilfilters.aspx

ShawnTRD · 02-25-2011, 06:57 PM

Wix called today. He said there the same filter just the 51396 is longer. I can use it as long as there is room. SWEET!!

Oil Filter Study

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...ilfilters.html

deadrx7conv · 02-25-2011, 07:07 PM

I use the 51516/20195/3600 on my 5sfe. This way, I can keep 1 filter stocked for multiple vehicles.

ShawnTRD · 02-25-2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadrx7conv

I use the 51516/20195/3600 on my 5sfe. This way, I can keep 1 filter stocked for multiple vehicles.

Doesn't look like the 51516 is the right dia. How does it seal?

51516
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226

51396
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlook...asp?Part=51516

deadrx7conv · 02-25-2011, 11:02 PM

Seals fine. Quoting dimensions means nothing. Screw one on.

***JohnGD*** · 02-27-2011, 01:52 PM

The only disadvantage I see is the little bit longer to fill the larger filter on initial startup. With the newer 2.4L engines it's no problem, because Toyota finally put the filter the right side up so the filter doesn't drain dry in some cases with earlier stupid designs.

Motorcraft's FL-400S filter is a cost effective alternative at Walmart. It's supposedly made on a Ford inspected Purolator production line. Should be similar to PureOne in performance.

And while there pickup Motorcraft synthetic blend 5W-30 or 10W-30 depending on the temperature in NY, if you don't go fully syn like Mobil-1, Castrol, or Pennzoil Platinum.