3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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Before you all give me the usual spiel about the expense of the (lets say insane) unorthodox swap, I'm planning on doing this bit-by-bit. I have close friends that are adept at wiring harnesses (or manufacturing of) and mechanical work, etc. The base is a 1997 Camry LE which currently has a 2.0L 5SFE auto trans. Some of the work other than the engine I plan on doing is over hauling the suspension, brakes, etc. This is a plan I've had for less than two months, and something I plan on working on for as long as it takes. What I'm hoping for by posting this is not just jokes of my insanity, (let's face it, this isn't exactly a Porsche I'm talking about-- it's a Camry) but some help as to what suspension I should look into as a good car to hit a corner, then have the power to come out again. I know the 1UZFE's didn't come with a manual transmission, and I am wanting to find a manual transmission that will mate to it (idealistically 6 speed.) I also plan on doing any transmission tunnel/firewall work that is required of this swap. Also, any idea of a good, solid break system would be amazing. I love the sound of the IUZFE, and would love for my camry to have that head turning sound. So, again, any help at all is more than appreciated. I just need to know where to start, other than by buying the engine.
This sounds like an awesome project, but I'm gonna start the flame train and say it's not going to be worth it. For the price you'll be paying it would be cheaper to buy a car that's already got the 1UZ and a 6 speed.
But, if you wish to throw that by the wayside, that's cool too. It will take you quite a while of research and part gathering before you're ready to swap the engines so make sure you're commited to this project.
First thing to do if figure out what manual trans can bolt up to the 1UZ. There's gotta be something. Research and more research will help you out with this one.
Like I mentioned, I'm well aware of the costs. hahaha. Unfortunately due to my income, it would be easier on me to buy parts for a swap one piece at a time then it would to buy a car (because I'll be honest, if I had the money I would just go out and buy a 370Z or something of the sort). I found on youtube of all places a guy who had taken a N/A Supra tranny (I believe a W58) which would be a start. The only reason I'm even wanting to do this swap is because the good old Camry has been with me since day one I got my license, and it was my first car. So, in my love for it, I want to make it into something no one else would. :P Now, for a 6 speed trans I'm finding stuff on a Tremec T56.
Dude I'd pass the 1UZ and go for a 2 or 3uz. If you're already gonna cram a 4.0L in the engine bay, might as well make it a 4.7L with 300 HP used in Toyota's GT Race cars haha
I'd like to see this happen but I'm almost positive it won't. That being said, please prove me wrong and slap it in my face. I'd love to see you slap it in my face even though I'm sure it'll never be finished.
hahah! Well, I'm definitely looking for the insane, but I think a 4.7L would teeter a bit over the edge for the poor camry. Also, I forgot to even mention my idea about a RWD or 4x4 conversion for the car. Like I said, this car is meant to be a curve machine, because I live in the mountains. I also choose the 1UZFE because I've read the internals are much stronger than the later models. Your input is really appreciated, and please keep it coming! It helps me more than you'll know.
I'd like to see this happen but I'm almost positive it won't. That being said, please prove me wrong and slap it in my face. I'd love to see you slap it in my face even though I'm sure it'll never be finished.
That only makes me want to make it happen that much more.
Drop in a 3.3 V6 from a es330or any other FWD toyota. Buy a whole smashed up destroyed one and just swap everything over. No need to fab anything, maybe some engine mounts at most. It'll be probally cheap too (maybe 3k if you find a really good one thats had a big tree fall on it)
Making a RWD camry would be just a waste honestly. And just stupid expensive. You say you'll stick towards the end but once your 3k into it and you have nothing done you'll stop.
yeah first of all you'd have to figure out how to convert it to RWD or AWD. you would never fit a v8 and a tranny transverse in there. i would start looking at what rear suspension you can hack together from an AWD celica or supra, and then find out who makes parts for that that will handle the power. either way youre looking at possibly hundreds of hours of custom fabrication work. you might pass the $20k mark. hope youre pockets are deep!
My first quest to get done is the engine swap as a whole. The whole AWD/RWD idea was an after thought (and honestly something I know realistically will cost some serious cash) So, again I'm just trying to figure out what all would be needed and where to get it! I planned on pinching pennies for as long as it takes to save up and just have a shop do the drive conversion.
Thanks for all your input! It will keep me motivated. :]
getrag is the only real option for a 6-speed most people opt to stick with th 5 due to no real gains because of the extra shift time, the w58 is the best option, contact red phoenix on here from quantum automotive they make an adapter plate
why the 1uz? they are dirt cheap and with odb1 so you can trick the hell out of the ecu. alot of the mk3 guys run the 1uz, i.e. soon to be me
you will need the return style fuel lines from the gen 3 (92-96) camry to help keep the fuel up and work with they system on the engine
i'm guessing you going rwd and running the axle down where the exhaust is now, try to start looking for what you need to get for a rear end i have no idea there at all try to find an importer that can get the rear end from an all tract camry (j-spec) would be a good expensive start
look for the manual interior and stuff like clutch petal ect.
your also going to need a larger brake booster and proportional valve from the doner car
also there are 3 different oil pans for this engine named aptly front, mid, rear stump which as you can guess is where it is deeper in those areas
i have no idea about how your going to do the steering rack
um also yoink a 255lph walbro
i'll remember more crap you need later
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getrag is the only real option for a 6-speed most people opt to stick with th 5 due to no real gains because of the extra shift time, the w58 is the best option, contact red phoenix on here from quantum automotive they make an adapter plate
why the 1uz? they are dirt cheap and with odb1 so you can trick the hell out of the ecu. alot of the mk3 guys run the 1uz, i.e. soon to be me
you will need the return style fuel lines from the gen 3 (92-96) camry to help keep the fuel up and work with they system on the engine
i'm guessing you going rwd and running the axle down where the exhaust is now, try to start looking for what you need to get for a rear end i have no idea there at all try to find an importer that can get the rear end from an all tract camry (j-spec) would be a good expensive start
look for the manual interior and stuff like clutch petal ect.
your also going to need a larger brake booster and proportional valve from the doner car
also there are 3 different oil pans for this engine named aptly front, mid, rear stump which as you can guess is where it is deeper in those areas
i have no idea about how your going to do the steering rack
um also yoink a 255lph walbro
i'll remember more crap you need later
Do you have any idea where I might be able to even begin looking for a rear end? Other than google, because that hasn't gotten me too far so far. Again, thank you all for your input and help!
Just swap in a 3vz-fe (pretty much a direct swap. Do your research and youll find these engines are capable of 300+ hp without a lot of work this is due to the iron block and forged internals with exception of pistons. They are pretty much bullet proof. Just some air n fuel mods), find a 5 speed, Buy a nice set of coilovers (K-sport seems to be the prefered coilover), Get a rear sway bar (whiteline or TRD. Whiteline may be easier to find. Look for es300 of the same year on ebay) I believe the gen 4 adjustable RSB also fits right up. Wonderfull mod!, get a front strut bar. Call it a day
Check these posts about the 3vzfe http://www.mr2.com/forums/v6-owners-...toyota-v6.html 3vz-fe ECU enhancements? http://mr2wiki.com/MKII/3vzfetune
Save yourself a bunch of time and money and use this platform to its full capability.
Just swap in a 3vz-fe (pretty much a direct swap. Do your research and youll find these engines are capable of 300+ hp without a lot of work this is due to the iron block and forged internals with exception of pistons. They are pretty much bullet proof. Just some air n fuel mods), find a 5 speed, Buy a nice set of coilovers (K-sport seems to be the prefered coilover), Get a rear sway bar (whiteline or TRD. Whiteline may be easier to find. Look for es300 of the same year on ebay) I believe the gen 4 adjustable RSB also fits right up. Wonderfull mod!, get a front strut bar. Call it a day
Check these posts about the 3vzfe http://www.mr2.com/forums/v6-owners-...toyota-v6.html 3vz-fe ECU enhancements? http://mr2wiki.com/MKII/3vzfetune
Save yourself a bunch of time and money and use this platform to its full capability.
Thanks, I'll keep this in mind as well, because it all depends on the availability of the parts needed. But for now I'm going to continue to look for a SC400 donor car.
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