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Old 03-31-2011, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation Help me decide on which 16" rim/wheel?

The car has 3 different brands and 2 different size tires currently mounted. Came this way from the previous owner. I have a complete set of nice all weather quality Michelin tires 225/60/16 that I would really like to utilize since they're bought and paid for already and just sitting in the garage.

I need to replace my current stock 15" alloys with a set of 16" obviously but don't really know enough about the various wheels and their corresponding backspacing to know for sure what will fit.

I'd like to purchase the lightest set possible without having to drop insane amounts of money on them.

Anybody know of any light weight wheels with an appropriate backspace that will work with these tires that won't break the bank?


Links would be nice if you have something specific in mind.
I'm wanting to keep the cost to less than 125/wheel is possible.

What would be some good companies to consider for a nice light weight wheel that offers enough backspace to keep things from rubbing. I'd prefer to avoid having to utilize Spacers if at all possible. The idea is to make use of the rubber that is sitting on the counter not being used otherwise.


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Old 03-31-2011, 06:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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craigslist, i got a set of mazda 6 rims for 25, seriously 4 rims look like ass (winter set) but rims

my 2007 se rims were only 150 for the set.

look post here a set you like try to make sure the bolt pattern is 114.3 (listing will say or you can google what car they were on) and 5 lugs and we can help


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there were a set of mazda rims that were popular with the mk3 supra guys that were rather light and cheap
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http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2298030936.html

look nice, i have no idea where you live in ohio so google maps and beer said this was close enough, also i have no idea what the off set of those rims are, but he listed it a few times so he might let them go cheap

http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2294739924.html

they work
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I don't have alot of spec.'s handy right now, but a 225-60 16", is a pretty tall tire, you may run into clearance issues with the strut towers. (area between the tire and the bottom of the strut spring support. It is already a small clearance with 205-65 15's. Measure the height of the tire, divide it by two to get the radius, and compare it to the radius of your current tire/rim combo. This should give you a ballpark figure, to see if this new combo is even possible.
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Wheelweights.net is where I found my setup with the 1995 Millenia 15" alloy rims.

Dunno about 16" - you should have plenty of choices though!
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car-part.com my set f 16" solara rims that got stolen was only 250 from there with a matching for spare
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Maybe I should just concentrate more on which tire to put on the stock 15" alloys that are already on the car and forget about the 16's.

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http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

.6 inch or 14.4mm taller ...... not alot of space .....

my 17" are 1.4mm taller than your 16" tires (15.8mm over stock)..... you should fit fine try for a +45 off set rim
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Maybe you should.. Anything beyond a 205, anything, generally needs a rim wider than the stock 6" wide alloy wheels the car come with to seat and perform properly. A 15x7" rim for example will do a great job for a 215-60 15" on a gen3. Go to 16's, or more though and you have to learn and understand much more about the whole rim,size,profile, offset thing. That lesson is available through a search of related threads, or likely at your local tire store.
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Maybe I should just concentrate more on which tire to put on the stock 15" alloys that are already on the car and forget about the 16's.

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If you're going to install 16 inch wheels, do it right. I have 16X7 Fondmetal 6700 Alloy wheels with 205/60R16 tires. I kept the diameter the same as the stock 15s and the weight at each corner (tire/wheel) is the same as when I had the 15X6 steel wheels on 205/65R15 tires. There are lighter 16X7 wheels, but since the tire/wheel combo still weighed the same before/after, I was okay with it. Car handles better.

If you are starting with 15X6 alloy wheels and going to 16X7 and even bigger tires width and diameter, each corner of your car will get a lot heavier. You might have more ultimate cornering grip, but how your car handles overall will likely suffer. You'll probably gain approx 6 lbs plus/minus at each corner. Your speedo will be off 4.5%

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The first ad you posted will fit the bolt pattern

I correct myself the first ad that Chronoti posted.. You have to worry about the offset though, the second set, the Grand Prix wheels will not fit your car at all.

Going to a 16 inch rim the 205 55 16 will be your best choice of tire. The 225 60 16 is entirely to tall and may rub, not to mention through your speedo off.

I believe but do not put full heart into this that the offset for Toyota is 38mm postive. Im recalling this from memory but dont quote me.

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In this particular question with 225-60 16's, sidewall/strut clearance is not really the issue. You have lots of flexibility in tire width available with your selection of offset in a 16, 17, etc. rim. The issue is that this tire size is far to tall. It will likely not fit under the strut springs. (big coiled things that are on the top part of the strut). That size of tire (if it even fits), will also throw your speedo way off and get you tickets for speeding, once you finally get going to any kind of speed. That is to say, that it will make the car alot slower in acceleration because it will make your actual gear ratios much higher (lower numerically), and hurt the cars acceleration ability. Then it will also raise your ride height and mess up the cars cornering/handling characteristics.

Nope, its kind of a bummer, but 225-60 16, is just to tall.
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In this particular question with 225-60 16's, sidewall/strut clearance is not really the issue. You have lots of flexibility in tire width available with your selection of offset in a 16, 17, etc. rim. The issue is that this tire size is far to tall. It will likely not fit under the strut springs. (big coiled things that are on the top part of the strut). That size of tire (if it even fits), will also throw your speedo way off and get you tickets for speeding, once you finally get going to any kind of speed. That is to say, that it will make the car alot slower in acceleration because it will make your actual gear ratios much higher (lower numerically), and hurt the cars acceleration ability. Then it will also raise your ride height and mess up the cars cornering/handling characteristics.

Nope, its kind of a bummer, but 225-60 16, is just to tall.
so then my 225/55r17 are too tall? they are 1.4mm taller than the set he wants to use, they are mounted on 07 se rims?

yes he will loose acceleration but this tire over sizing is common in hyper milling

the offset on the gp rim is +38 and the bolt patter is close enough (my cousin and an ex member swapped rims worked fine)
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^+1. Hey chronity obviously knows his stuff, if it will fit then do it. I just walked over to my neibours Honda minivan and measured the height of his 225-60 16's, and noted that they seemed alot taller than my stock 15" winter tires.
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3rd Generation

Thanks for all the help and advice. After carefull thought I simply purchased a stock size tire and stayed with the stock wheels. I really don't have any business/need to be dropping any more money into this car than I have to.

Having said that I can't get the idea of a custom fabbed y-pipe out of my head. After taking one look at that factory y-pipe I can't help but to wonder why in the world toyota would have used such a poor design other than maybe to get more heat closer to the 02 sensor for emmission light out purposes because any monkey can tell that the current design is so far from efficient airflow that its retarded.

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