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Old 04-03-2011, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Canada Crazy door lock problem

Hi everybody,
I'm experiencing a door lock problem with my My camry 1997 (CE V6). I can't find on the internet someone that experienced a similar problem so I take a chance on this forum.

When the key is in the ignition switch (engine running or not) and the front passenger door is opened, the automatic door unlock system is activated (the system that unlock the doors to prevent to be unlocked outside the car when the keys are still inside the ignition switch) causing the 4 doors to be unlocked. The problen happen even is the doors are locked or unlocked. The problem doens't happen all the time but most of the time. The problem also often happen either if I close gently or slam the passenger door.

I checked if there is cut wire between the door and the doorframe but everything is OK. I realized this morning that the problem also occurs when the passenger door is opened and I push on the door jam switch. I removed and cleaned the switched but I'm still experiencing the same problem.

Any clue (please do not suggest to change my car, this is jut an annoying problem that not affect the possibility of riding from point A to B).
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So, nobody has a clue?
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Sorry, but I've read your description three times, and I'm not sure what the problem is.

Do the doors unlock even if you've got the keys out of the ignition?
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Mine does it too and its annoying(Camry 1997 CE 4 cylinder,US made)

If anyone have a fix for this please share.
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Sorry, but I've read your description three times, and I'm not sure what the problem is.

Do the doors unlock even if you've got the keys out of the ignition?


No, only when the keys are in the ignition switch (engine running or not)
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Ah, OK. It's supposed to do that. It keeps people from leaving the keys in the ignition and locking themselves out. I'm not sure if there's a way to change that or not.

Just a guess, but since you're both in Canada, you'd like to start the car and leave it to warm up with the doors locked? I used to do that in Minnesota with a Ford. It had separate ignition and door lock keys. Kinda nice for that when it's 20F below zero.
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Ah, OK. It's supposed to do that. It keeps people from leaving the keys in the ignition and locking themselves out. I'm not sure if there's a way to change that or not.

Just a guess, but since you're both in Canada, you'd like to start the car and leave it to warm up with the doors locked? I used to do that in Minnesota with a Ford. It had separate ignition and door lock keys. Kinda nice for that when it's 20F below zero.
Wel, you're right it's supposed to do this, but only when the engine of the car is off. It's doing the problem whenever the engine of the car is running or not (and the transmission on park or on drive). Also, it happen only when someone open or close the front passenger door. The problem doesn't happen with the other doors...
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I never tried this on the passenger door, so I had to go out and try it.

Engine running, transmission in park.
Locked the doors.
Unlocked the passenger door manually & opened it.
Manually locked it, and all doors' power locks unlocked.

I tried it again with the engine off & keys in the ignition in the off position, and it does the same thing. My driver's door behaves the same way.

So if it's not supposed to do that with the passenger's door, mine's broken too.
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It's the integration relay that is attached to your main fuse junction block. The 97, this was the early style of the body control ecu.
Then I found a revised part number for these. That shows that Toyota knew there was a problem.
I'll see if I can dig that P# up.

Found it. This may or may not apply to your vehicle. 82841-AA010
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I never tried this on the passenger door, so I had to go out and try it.

Engine running, transmission in park.
Locked the doors.
Unlocked the passenger door manually & opened it.
Manually locked it, and all doors' power locks unlocked.

I tried it again with the engine off & keys in the ignition in the off position, and it does the same thing. My driver's door behaves the same way.

So if it's not supposed to do that with the passenger's door, mine's broken too.
Hi,
thank you for your answer.

I should have specified that the unlock mecanism try to unlock all the doors not just once (I mean one click sound) bur 4, 5 or even 10 times (that's why the title of the threat is crazy unlocking) event if the doors are already unlocked. Sorry to not have written all the details because I thought they were not relevant.
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It's the integration relay that is attached to your main fuse junction block. The 97, this was the early style of the body control ecu.
Then I found a revised part number for these. That shows that Toyota knew there was a problem.
I'll see if I can dig that P# up.

Found it. This may or may not apply to your vehicle. 82841-AA010
Thank you, is it possible that the number is 82641 and not 82841? Because I can't find a replacement part with this number.
ALso is the relay is broken, should the problen being observed with the 4 doors and not the front passenger door?

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It's possible that prefix could be wrong. I wrote it down back in '97 or '98 while on the phone with a factory rep. The customer had the same concern as you.
All the relay has to see is any door courtesy switch, open/close, then sends it momentary haywire. Everything body wise goes through the integration.
Yes, it's 82641-AA020. I see it's been updated again! Anytime you see this, the part has gone through a revision.
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Hi,
thank you for your answer.

I should have specified that the unlock mecanism try to unlock all the doors not just once (I mean one click sound) bur 4, 5 or even 10 times (that's why the title of the threat is crazy unlocking) event if the doors are already unlocked. Sorry to not have written all the details because I thought they were not relevant.
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Thanks! I was still scratching my head trying to understand the problem until now. Yeah, that's not right!
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