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3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001) Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001 Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.

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Old 04-03-2011, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i love this car

there will be more 4cyl camrys in my families future. i have kids that will be getting to driving age soon and i cant think of a better car to get them. good gas mileage, reliable, and not horrible looking.

plus i can do all the maintenance bcuz it is ridiculously easy to work on. i just managed to change oil and change brake pads on all four corners in less than an hour and twenty minutes. i changed the valve cover gasket in no time flat too.

everything looks so simple to service i cant get over it.

and ps. the car has paid for itself already just in gas savings alone vs my f150. cant beat that.

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Glad you enjoy the camry as much as we do I love these cars!



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Nice. As for the mileage. I thought the Gen 4 camry had good mileage till I read the EPA rating on it and I was just shocked. I-4 rating 20 city/ 27 highway for manual. 19 city/25 hwy for auto.

It's a good thing my camry does 28 mpg average.
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Nice. As for the mileage. I thought the Gen 4 camry had good mileage till I read the EPA rating on it and I was just shocked. I-4 rating 20 city/ 27 highway for manual. 19 city/25 hwy for auto.

It's a good thing my camry does 28 mpg average.
yeah they are not so great in city, automatics especially hehe. they are actually only slightly better than V6 auto (rated 17MPG in city) LOL

however as above, it's just ridicoulously easy to work on those 4 cylinders
V6's are a little crazier when it gets to repairs
though I love the V6 for its kicks and not that much worse MPG.

last time I checked my V6 does 27 hwy and around 16 city (short distance driving) while wife's i4 does around 29 hwy and between 18 and 22 in city depending on driving patterns.
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I for one am pleased with the fuel economy. I regularly average 26 mpg in the city and 32 mpg on long trips and I've never gotten lower than 24 mpg. I have a 99 Camry with the 4 cylinder and a 5 speed.

So easy to work on and parts aren't that expensive. Can't say that about the wife's Town & Country.
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In my family, there's a 1993 5SFE and a 1993 3VZFE. It's fun working on the 4-cylinder. Thanks to the DIYs on TN, I have been able to do a lot of the maintenance work myself. I had never done a valve cover gasket replacement before in my life, and there was nothing to it after about 2-3 hours of reading prep. Of course, it helps to have room in the engine bay to work. Not sure if this is considered "good news," but I see plenty of 5SFEs out at the local junkyards and that makes sourcing OEM parts easy. Things like replacement dashboard lights, control lock actuators and transmissions are easy to find.

On the other hand, I F-ing hate the 3VZFE. I hate that F-ing engine. Everything is a pain to get to. For example: Changing out the 5SFE rear motor mount seems doable, but the 3VZFE rear motor mount looks damn near impossible to get to without removing big items in the way. No other car has given my family more hell and cost us more $$$$ than the F-ing 3VZFE. And yet, we still keep it around.

If I were a smarter guy, I would find myself a 22RE Toyota truck and live on Easy Street.
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I love the 3VZ, and have not found anything especially hard to work on with this engine. Not any harder than any other V6 engined car. I actually found the timing belt to be easy to replace, about the same as the 1MZ. Never tried to do a rear engine mount, but have done one on a 5S and that is no picnic. The 3VZ engine is a tank, way overbuilt the bottom end of the engine is extremely robust. Great engine, but a bit hard to find parts for you don't see many at the salvage yards. I love the fact that it's OBD1, very forgiving as far as throwing codes.

As for these cars, some of my friends think I'm crazy for driving around in an "old" car. They think it's ancient, but I love these cars I will keep mine as long as possible.
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And I'll bet you'd get 35+ on long road trips, like I do.

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Nice. As for the mileage. I thought the Gen 4 camry had good mileage till I read the EPA rating on it and I was just shocked. I-4 rating 20 city/ 27 highway for manual. 19 city/25 hwy for auto.

It's a good thing my camry does 28 mpg average.
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my dad has a 96 camry and i have been looking for my first car so when i found a super clean 95 camry that got ran out of oil cheap i bought it and just got the motor for it today, going to work on it this weekend. These little cars are very fun and drive very nice, the interior is better quality than the cadillacs of its era, thats not saying much but i am still getting impressed by the quality every time i drive my dads. Both of ours are 2.2's but still have plenty of power on the hills and 70+mph interstate driving.
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my dad has a 96 camry and i have been looking for my first car so when i found a super clean 95 camry that got ran out of oil cheap i bought it and just got the motor for it today, going to work on it this weekend. These little cars are very fun and drive very nice, the interior is better quality than the cadillacs of its era, thats not saying much but i am still getting impressed by the quality every time i drive my dads. Both of ours are 2.2's but still have plenty of power on the hills and 70+mph interstate driving.
Is any of these 2 cars a wagon?
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Is any of these 2 cars a wagon?
no i hardly ever see those around here, are they worth more or somthing?
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the mileage on mine is exactly what i expected. and considering whomever had it before me did not care for this car its actually doing better than i expected. and now that the weather has warmed up and i got an alignment done it has picked up 4 mpg. i am averaging 27 or 28 mpg per tank now overall. the vast majority of that is on the freeway but there is a fair amount of town driving.

it is ugly and rusty and really old. but i was talking with a friend last nite who has a truck payment of 720 a month. and i paid less than that for my car. and i bet he wont have that truck as long as i have my car. i love the fact that he will spend more every month than i did for the life of my car.
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no i hardly ever see those around here, are they worth more or somthing?
No, Just wondering. The 3VZ is the better engine for the Wagon.
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You guys get great MPG compared to me.
I seem to average around 21 per Gallon and I drive about 70% Freeway.
Maybe I'm just a lead foot
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I love the 3VZ, and have not found anything especially hard to work on with this engine. Not any harder than any other V6 engined car. I actually found the timing belt to be easy to replace, about the same as the 1MZ. Never tried to do a rear engine mount, but have done one on a 5S and that is no picnic. The 3VZ engine is a tank, way overbuilt the bottom end of the engine is extremely robust. Great engine, but a bit hard to find parts for you don't see many at the salvage yards. I love the fact that it's OBD1, very forgiving as far as throwing codes.

As for these cars, some of my friends think I'm crazy for driving around in an "old" car. They think it's ancient, but I love these cars I will keep mine as long as possible.
You should see the looks get when I tell people my car is a '95. The timing belt really isn't that hard on the 1MZ. The most painful thing to do on the 1MZ is the rear bank valve cover gaskets and spark plugs, as well as the bank 1 O2 sensor

MPG wise, my V6 really isn't that bad at all. I get 26 on 93 octane at about 70% freeway. 27 MPG with about 80% freeway...
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