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Old 04-18-2011, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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P0401 Error

Hi,

I had a mechanic diagnose my P0401 error on a 1996 Camry V6. He did a lot of troubleshooting using All Data information.

Cleaned out the throttle body and some other stuff. Code was cleared and I ran it for about 30-30 miles with 4 start cycles. I get close to the smog station for a retest, and the check engine light turns back on.

Further troubleshooting and 3 hours later, he claims it is the EGR temperature sensor.

I've checked around, and they are about $117-$210 in nearby stores, with a 2 day minimum order time. I've been to junkyards and they don't seem to have that make and year. Can anyone suggest anything helpful before I buy the part?

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on such stuff I would go with OEM only, but make him PROVE first that this is the root cause. did he do the check procedures on it and it failed it?

it's easy to throw parts at car, especially ones he makes most money on, so be careful.

on a side note, give the car at least 2-3 days (a week to be safe) of daily driving (must include at least 15 minutes of steady highway driving) after clearing codes, because you will fail emissions for incomplete monitoring tests on e.g. catalyst and EVAP, those take longest to mark complete.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if you can do test yourself and have things such as vac gauge, vac pump and some old vac line your can find yourself maybe. I jus did this and replaced vvs and hoping this fixes as everything else checked good, do a search on this forum and read all the post for how to do etc. good luck.
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on such stuff I would go with OEM only, but make him PROVE first that this is the root cause. did he do the check procedures on it and it failed it?
My main goal is to pass the smog test.

As for the mechanic, he's a good kid who's studying to be a mechanic. Seems to know his stuff. Found him on craigslist and he came out to me to work on the car. I interviewed like 6-8 others, and he seemed to be the best. He's diligent, and spent like 7 hours on the car diagnosing, working and cleaning parts. Charged me very minimal so far.

He's not trying to sell any parts since he just works on the car in the parking lot. He went through a kind of flowchart he got from that "All Data" thing (http://www.alldata.com/), and was cool since he informed me that it even existed.

At one point he had me hold the gas petal while in park to 4000 RPM for 3 minutes. Then he tested the temp of something and he said it was bad because of I think a reading on the voltmeter - too high resistance or something. I'll have to ask him to find the exact reason. And I've emailed him a link below to verify.

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it's easy to throw parts at car, especially ones he makes most money on, so be careful.

on a side note, give the car at least 2-3 days (a week to be safe) of daily driving (must include at least 15 minutes of steady highway driving) after clearing codes, because you will fail emissions for incomplete monitoring tests on e.g. catalyst and EVAP, those take longest to mark complete.
As for driving 2-3 days, I am over on the registration, as it expired end of February. I am careful not to drive too much, but I know I need some miles (is 50 good?) after the code gets cleared.

I already failed the emissions once because of this (and other codes that went away), and the tech at the smog place said he'd tell me if it was ready to take the test without charging me, so that seemed cool of him.

How about this though: EGR gas temp sensor on'94 Camry, which suggests using an actual resistor in place of the sensor. Is that a good idea? If so, will it be seen and/or detected by the smog tester?

(Side note: I am in N CA, and the car has 220,000 miles. Don't know if anyone needs to know that, but I saw it in another post, so I thought to add it here.)
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Not sure if it's on the V6, but have the EGR VSV been check yet? It is very common for those to jam up with carbon. 90% of the time with a DTC P0401, if the EGR is working, then the VSV is that next thing to look for.

Here's a related thread: 99 Camry 2.2 with P0401
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Yeah, I've been reading about that. I was pretty sure it was that too. Mechanic said he tested VSV and it was ok.
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they can test good and still be bad as mine was, replaced and all seems good thus far...I am holding my breath....good luck, vvs was something like 45 bucks at o'reilly with lifetime warranty.
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