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Old 08-30-2011, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation DIY Push Start / Kill Switch

Here is my attempt to make it into the stickied thread!

Anyways, these are just deterrents, used to slow a person down from stealing your car. Whether your cars a POS or a BMW, people will take if they got the opportunity. So this will be used as an informative thread on Hidden Push starters and Kill Switches.


In my demo, I chose to use my cigarette lighter as my push button starter, note I also have 2 more kill switches in combination with my starter, but you can choose any style of button you like. Preferably a momentary button if your going to use it as a starter. Hide it wherever you believe to be a good spot. This will still require a key in the "On Position." This is also helpful in making your car a PIA to access. I actually like it this way.

Essentially I think this should work on any car, just as long as you double check your correct wiring. Find your ignition wire harness, then Go to the12volt.com and find your vehicle. From here you will want to find the Alarm/Remote Start wiring.

Figure out which wire is the constant 12v wire & your starter wire. For the 94 Camry, I circled them in red in this picture below. The White wire is constant 12v & the Black with White stripe is the Camry's starter



1) You will want to cut the black & white (starter) wire before it gets to the plastic connector. This I believe disconnects the start from the key hole, but keeps everything afterwards thats still connected together on the black & white wire. Securely tape off the black & white wire from the car to the connector as you will not be using this anymore
2) Extend the black & white wire from the plastic housing to your start button's location. Attach it to one of the prongs of your button
3) Splice the constant 12v source from the plastic connector. Do not cut, as this 12v is used to power everything that is attached to the connector. Attach the spliced wire from the 12v to the other prong of your button.

See my horrible diagram below.


You will probably have to modify the cigarette light to not stick in when pushed, but do not take out the spun up coil! I learned the hard way, and if you wire up to the lighter, without the coil you cannot start the car

This will use the same 12v energy that is used to start the car. If you choose to use your cigarette lighter like i did, it will no longer work as a lighter. You can attach another one using the original cigarette lighter wiring harness.

Take out the cigarette lighter when you leave your car, and its pretty much like a key BTW do not push the lighter while driving your car! The engine will stop!!

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Old 08-30-2011, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good topic! I remember an article where one dude put a reed switch someplace in his dash and had a strong magnet in his glove box or something. His car would only start if he passed the magnet within a certain distance of the switch and he had to start it up within a certain amount of time.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 08-31-2011, 02:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I originally wanted to do the magnet idea, be honestly I would probably misplace my magnet lol. At least with the cig lighter you can borrow one from another person's vehicle to start lol.

side note, this weekend is going to be hell. gonna start sanding, filling, and preping for phresh paint! excited
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now i know what wires to bypass on your car.. Thanks!!!

hahah just kidding. Good stuff , stickied
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This is a great idea, except I need the lighter for gps and small-duty inverter. I'll have to look elsewhere.

Btw, what kind of kill switches/setup do you have in addition to this?

When I first acquired my car, it had a horrible short somewhere that drained the battery when not running, and I considered a battery kill switch somehow when parking. Turned out to be a crappy dealer-installed Karr Security System that was the culprit, and removing it fixed the short. I still wouldn't mind adding a kill switch tho.


/edit: I'm a little confused by the description above...you've got a black/white wire circled, as well as a white wire circled. Are you referring to "black & white" to mean the black/white and the white wires? You're also referring to splicing the 12v source. I'm assuming this is the thick red/white wire in the connector?

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Ive always been a fan of the kill switches that are in Incospicuious locations. The only problem with a kill switch is its just the same as a car alarm. If a theif really wants your car, they will just rip your dash apart and find where your wires are going.

To be really "Sneaky" You should splice somewhere where it doesnt even look like you tampered with the harness. Then run the wiring through the OEM Harness, and to wherever you want your kill switch. That way if a theif is very determined it will be almost impossible to find the kill switch without tearing the whole car apart, typically making the theiving situation end up being a stolen radio or CDs

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/edit: I'm a little confused by the description above...you've got a black/white wire circled, as well as a white wire circled. Are you referring to "black & white" to mean the black/white and the white wires? You're also referring to splicing the 12v source. I'm assuming this is the thick red/white wire in the connector?

The Black wire with the white stripe is your wire that actually goes to the starter. The white wire circled is just a constant 12V+
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I gotta admit,.....thats pretty slick!!!
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This is a great idea, except I need the lighter for gps and small-duty inverter. I'll have to look elsewhere.
I'm not sure if I worded it correctly..I tried to explain it as if your using any button of your choice, but you still can have these as long as you have another cig lighter. What were doing is cutting out the stock light completely and using it as a switch. If you buy another one, just use the stock wiring from the car to OE stock lighter, extend the positive & negative wires, connect to new lighter.

@Mister_Perkins. I really wanted it to be me discrete, but it gets really tight working on the harness up there lol. Not sure if they can be taken off ha. But I used Black wires for my cig starter and electrical taped them around the stock harness to make it seem like they are ground wires that were OE. I wanted to use the stock 12v from the cig, but I plan on re-routing another lighter, dont want to stress it?

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Btw, what kind of kill switches/setup do you have in addition to this?
It may sound like overkill for my half POS, but I live in an area where even POSes get stolen. i got a fuel kill and a ignition switch with this hidden starter. <-- Hopefully none of you guys are my neighbor XD
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It may sound like overkill for my half POS, but I live in an area where even POSes get stolen. i got a fuel kill and a ignition switch with this hidden starter. <-- Hopefully none of you guys are my neighbor XD
Sorry but I am currently your neighbor...if you're looking at a nat'l weather map. Being in a border state right now, it seems nothing is safe here either. I think those are a great idea. I'd rather my more expensive honda get stolen, which would yield insurance money. I don't think I have coverage for that on the camry at this point.
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Is it the same with a manual car?
Any precautions? Leave it neutral always before the car is turn on? Hold clutch? lol . Its just that i may try this. Not sure but who knows.
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With a manual, you need to engage the clutch to start it. The clutch has a clutch switch that wont let the car roll over without it engaged.

Unless you splice the wrong wire, then watch out because that would suck lol.

I remember when i first started messing with cars when I was 14 and bought my civic, I hooked a push button starter connected right to the starter and I was testing it and it rolled over and almost ran me over. lol
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Is the wiring the same for a 95 camry?
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My car has had something similar installed for years. It's really entertaining actually when other people try to start my car Good job
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I apologize for necroposting in advance.

I attempted to do this tonight to my 4th gen Camry, and quickly realized that
1.) I'm not too sure what gauge wiring should be/could be used
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2.) What the "prongs" you mention are

Also, 12volt.com says my 12v is on the 'ignition harness', while the starter is on the 'ignition switch harness'. What is the difference between the two? I attempted to try this anyway and managed to render my key useless and make sparks fly everywhere. Luckily I patched everything back up and I'm not going to attempt this again until I know what you're talking about.
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