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Old 10-16-2011, 10:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Brakes???

Just had the front brakes done a couple months ago

Rear's were still @ 50%.

This a.m. on my donut run I noticed I had no brake pedal per se.

It goes down to the floor but stops me.. .what's going on?
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Most likely the master cylinder is the problem.
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Most likely the master cylinder is the problem.
that's what i was thiMking...thanks.
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There is still brake fluid in the container.. does that matter?
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Nope. One or more of the seals in the MC is leaking, and allowing fluid to leak past, thereby NOT pressurizing the brake line downstream. If Camry MC are like typical designs, the front and rear are separate. So you've lost one or the other.
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One more thought: It's possible that when the brakes were done, debris in the brake fluid was pushed back up into the MC when the front brake caliper pistons were pushed back in. So you might be able fix the MC by either flushing it out, or disassembling and cleaning it. Not worth the trouble, IMHO. But if money's really tight, it's worth a shot.
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One more thought: It's possible that when the brakes were done, debris in the brake fluid was pushed back up into the MC when the front brake caliper pistons were pushed back in. So you might be able fix the MC by either flushing it out, or disassembling and cleaning it. Not worth the trouble, IMHO. But if money's really tight, it's worth a shot.

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If the fluid level is the same (no external leaks) then the MC cups are probably bad. So when you step on the brakes you won't feel the brake starting to work in the first 1" or so, but rather about 1/2 down.

Flushing out the brake fluid every 2 years with a low moisture activity fluid (Castrol GT LMA or Valvoline synthetic) will help prolong the life of the new MC.

I'd recommend an OEM MC, not an aftermarket one. Check online dealers or ToyotaPartsMan here on TN if you have another car and can wait. But get it fixed ASAP and I'd get it towed to a shop if you don't DIY.



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It goes down to the floor but stops me.. .what's going on?
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Mechanic is here..

Fluid next to drivers side front tire..

Removing tire now... hose or caliper prob.
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it's the hose...

Bleed the breaks.. and my wallet a bit.

It's the thin hose that is in 2 parts with the pressure dealy on it in between....

Can you tell this is why i pay people to work on my car... to many dealys and thingys i know nada about.
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The hose blew? Or the hose collapsed?

If the mechanic dropped the caliper and it stretched the rubber hose, then he messed your car up.
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The hose blew? Or the hose collapsed?

If the mechanic dropped the caliper and it stretched the rubber hose, then he messed your car up.
Not sure but I don't think that is it...Here is a pic, makes things easier..

That thin hose above the rotor was leaking.


the pics are actually backwards
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Hard to tell, the pictures are pretty tiny. Could just be normal wear and tear, but after just having a brake job being done on my vehicle I'de be a little weary of a hose just "Going Bad"
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Hard to tell, the pictures are pretty tiny. Could just be normal wear and tear, but after just having a brake job being done on my vehicle I'de be a little weary of a hose just "Going Bad"
This car just hit 100K miles .... S**t's going to happen... that I do know.

Thanks for your help and concern.
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This car just hit 100K miles .... S**t's going to happen... that I do know.

Thanks for your help and concern.

lol . My 92 LE has 212,000 miles (Original Brake hoses), my 93 XLE 165,000 miles (Original brake hoses), and my 95 just hit 185,000 miles and all still have the original brake hoses

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