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Old 11-23-2011, 04:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Relocating weight from engine bay

So I'd like to relocate some weight from the engine bay to better balance my Camry to improve handling around corners.

Some things I'm planning to move to the trunk (or floor behind front seats maybe?):
-Battery
-Windshield washer tank
-Windshield washer pump
-Methanol injection pump
-Methanol injection reservoir

I feel like those things would probably add up to about the weight of my supercharger. The wheel well would be the lowest point in the trunk, maybe I could mount them in there.

I'm considering cutting several large holes out of the front bumper bar. I also considered relocating the fuse boxes, however that just seems ridiculous, and I'd prolly end up with a lot of electrical issues afterwards.

Anyone have any other ideas on stuff to move/remove to improve front/rear balance? ABS, perhaps?
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I say do away with the cruise control. That might shed at least a pound or two. I would also like to suggest removing the AC and heater but since it's a DD, you would have a sweaty ass in the summer and a frozen sack in the winter, so that's out of the question.
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You'd have to move a lot of weight to actually see any gain. Many people relocate batteries to the trunk. You do have to consider that anything relocated means extra wiring / plumbing to make it work... which means added weight overall.

You'd be better off tinkering with suspension and tires.
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Carbon Fibre Hood? Really you would propbably get better results from suspension tuning than trying to pull all that stuff (other than maybe the battery), out of the front end. Unless your track racing the car for a living, better sway bars, tweeking the ride height and spring rates, shocks and buying really sticky performance tires, will do much more than going to extremes to take out front end weight.
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fill it up with gas so its more balanced lol
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Carbon Fibre Hood?
Got one of those. Instant 40lb weight reduction off the front of the vehicle.

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I say do away with the cruise control. That might shed at least a pound or two. I would also like to suggest removing the AC and heater but since it's a DD, you would have a sweaty ass in the summer and a frozen sack in the winter, so that's out of the question.
Cruise control is a great idea. Since my cruise control isn't functional anyways now that I have a 5-speed tranny. Might as well remoce it. Thanks!


You guys assume I haven't already upgraded my suspension.

I have TRD rear struts and springs, K-Sport front coilovers, TRD rear anti-sway bar, and a TRD front strut tower bar. I'll be buying lower chassis braces this winter.

So yes, I want to go a step further. And I do intend on doing some track days this summer.
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Don't get me wrong I love my Camry, But. Don't you think if you want a sports car it would have be easier and cheaper to just have bought a sports car.
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^I keep telling people on this forum this but they don't listen.

It would be simple to get an n/a MR2 and swap the motors from car to car...
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Ive been saying that to him and bob after doing the research on it. Mr2 + Camry is win! Josh..your gonna loose alot of weight when u put the c/o on the front too. It may all be in vain with thoes monster stoppers on there.
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Don't get me wrong I love my Camry, But. Don't you think if you want a sports car it would have be easier and cheaper to just have bought a sports car.
Who said I want a sports car? Lol. I want a sleeper. I have long memorable history with this chassis, and I like the appreciation I get from people for doing something different and getting great results.


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^I keep telling people on this forum this but they don't listen.

It would be simple to get an n/a MR2 and swap the motors from car to car...
No, it wouldn't really be cheaper at all. The car is paid off and by next Fall with little more than an additional $6,000 (including engine and trans swap, brake, suspension, and tuning upgrades) invested over the $6,000 I've already spent I'll be at 500whp. A GT500 costs over $40,000. $12,000 is a lot cheaper than $40,000. A modified MR2 might go for a little cheaper than $12k. Don't think you'd find many good ones with 500hp for that price though. Maybe a Mustang Cobra? Certainly not for only $6,000.

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Ive been saying that to him and bob after doing the research on it. Mr2 + Camry is win! Josh..your gonna loose alot of weight when u put the c/o on the front too. It may all be in vain with thoes monster stoppers on there.
Rob, of course you are right. After all, a Camry can't beat the advantage of the MR2's light weight, mid-engined RWD performance.

But I can accept that. Because I'll have something special, that is also a great sleeper car. Plus at this point, it'd prolly still be cheaper for me to reach that goal with my Camry than an MR2. Honestly.

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No matter what you do to that Camry, it's still going to be a flexy front wheel drive commuter car in disguise. I'm not saying it can't be cool, but a sports car it will never be.
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Who said I want a sports car? Lol. I want a sleeper. I have long memorable history with this chassis, and I like the appreciation I get from people for doing something different and getting great results.




No, it wouldn't really be cheaper at all. The car is paid off and by next Fall with little more than an additional $6,000 (including engine and trans swap, brake, suspension, and tuning upgrades) invested over the $6,000 I've already spent I'll be at 500whp. A GT500 costs over $40,000. $12,000 is a lot cheaper than $40,000. A modified MR2 might go for a little cheaper than $12k. Don't think you'd find many good ones with 500hp for that price though. Maybe a Mustang Cobra? Certainly not for only $6,000.
You can find an N/A shell for less than $1000 if you look hard enough. Considering a CF hood is about $550+ shipping, it almost justifies the cost already. PLUS you get the automatic weight savings of up to 300lbs from MR2 to Camry in that price.
I never said it was cheaper, it just makes more sense to do it that way.
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No matter what you do to that Camry, it's still going to be a flexy front wheel drive commuter car in disguise. I'm not saying it can't be cool, but a sports car it will never be.
The inherent limitations of the Camry doesn't negate the improvement that relocating/removing weight would have on it's handling.



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You can find an N/A shell for less than $1000 if you look hard enough. Considering a CF hood is about $550+ shipping, it almost justifies the cost already. PLUS you get the automatic weight savings of up to 300lbs from MR2 to Camry in that price.
I never said it was cheaper, it just makes more sense to do it that way.
Even with an MR2 shell I'd probably still be spending a little more to get it to the point my Camry will be at next year with 500whp. I only spent $150 on my Camry's CF hood.

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