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Old 12-10-2011, 06:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Reverse is only gear that works

So I'm trying to help my friend out with her 96 Camry. It was experiencing late gear engagement when in Drive, and got progressively worse, and now doesn't engage at all. Reverse works 100% fine all the time, still.

Scanned for codes and got:

P1705 (NC2 revolution sensor circuit malfunction)
P0500 (Vehicle speed sensor)
P0402 (EGR Flow Excessive)

I found the web link that shows how to test the clutch speed sensor on top of the tranny. I pulled it off and it produced voltage during magnet sweeps, and it showed 557 ohms of resistance between the posts. The test said it needed to be 560-680 ohms. I cleaned it up and replaced it to no avail.

Also, the fluid level was low so I filled her up. Still no difference in symptoms.

Now, my final test is to replace the sensor and see if that works, since it was 3 ohms out of spec? Seems like a long shot. Otherwise, time to replace transmission?

Any thoughts on this one? I'm not afraid of pulling a transmission, but I would rather not...
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It was experiencing late gear engagement when in Drive, and got progressively worse, and now doesn't engage at all. Reverse works 100% fine all the time, still.

Any thoughts on this one? I'm not afraid of pulling a transmission, but I would rather not...
Since you tested the clutch speed sensor and it wasn't the cause, I think the transmission final caused it quits. I have the reverse gear go out on my 95' Quest and all forward gears works fine for another 35,000 miles. When shifting into drive, are there any noise or even the slightest movement?
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When shifting into Drive, the RPMs do change ever so slightly, but thats it. Theres no movement at all. You can rev the thing all the up to red line, and nothing.
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When shifting into Drive, the RPMs do change ever so slightly, but thats it. Theres no movement at all. You can rev the thing all the up to red line, and nothing.
It sound like the clutch packs in the transmission are toasted. When the RPM change after shifting into Drive, that's the sign that the valve body is engage the pump to pressurized the first set of clutch pack (Load onto the engine). But if all of the clutch packs are burnt, then there's no friction to engage gears. Sounds like over time, the transmission was slipping and now have reach the point of failure. Because if it suddenly failed, it usually not the clutch pack but pumps, valve body, wiring, etc.
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What I was afraid of. Any leads on a good tranny swap writeup? All the ones I've done have been RWD/AWD versions of the german variety.

There's a Camry 4th gen semi-writeup in the FAQ, think that will be similar enough?
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Most FWD transmission drops down from the engine bay. All I know is that replacing FWD transmission is difficult and time consuming.

Here's a speed-up video of a 93' Camry trans swap to show what you're up for.
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Yeah I watched that tonight. Quite funny actually. I'm filled with joy about what I am about to undergo.... <vomit>
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Yeah I watched that tonight. Quite funny actually. I'm filled with joy about what I am about to undergo.... <vomit>
I know that feeling. I would still have someone else look over it before tearing it apart. BTW, how many miles are on the Camry?
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225k miles.
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225k miles.
That transmission has done a good job. Most (not all) automatic transmission in the cities (constant stop and go) begin to fail around 150-200K miles.
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Its too bad its almost impossible to find a used one with less than 125k miles on it. I feel like I am going to just be installing a time bomb with a short fuse.
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Its too bad its almost impossible to find a used one with less than 125k miles on it. I feel like I am going to just be installing a time bomb with a short fuse.
Used engines aren't a problem but used transmissions are always a gamble. You'll never know if it had even been serviced before. You have to balance the value of the car vs. the repair cost and determent the best route. At 225K, don't forget other systems on her Camry can fail too.
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Any experience with the "rebuild kits?" Found these on RockAuto

http://info.rockauto.com/PartsAuthor...l/DK8900Z.html
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I know RockAuto sells quality parts but I haven't install rebuilt kit myself. I usually leave that to the those with experience. You might try to quote a few shops and find out how much it would be for them to rebuilt the transmission that you pull out vs. having them do the entire job.
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Good idea. I will check around
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