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Old 01-25-2013, 10:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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SirThomas's Twincharged Build Thread

Hey dudes, some of you may know that I've had build plans in the works for awhile now. I haven't really talked much about it on any forums, keeping mostly to the people working on the build and a few friends. Well finally, after tons of research and planning and buying parts, it looks like the swap is almost ready to begin and I think the time has come to share the build with you all. It's really exciting to me to see all the amazing builds going on recently. I love seeing the direction everyone chooses to go with their own build and all the differences and similarities in ways to approach it. I can't wait to see how all these builds end up. I've been working with Gabe extensively for about a year to plan and develop this project and he'll also be doing the swap and build. Gabe's been building a bunch of custom parts for me, including the radiator kit, turbo kit, and over all has been instrumental in helping me plan this one out. For anyone who follows Gabe's business Facebook page, you've probably seen some photos of some of the parts he's making. There are other SG and TN members that deserve credit, like GregTRD, Adam G., Bob, and Rob, who are always wonderful people to talk to and bounce ideas off of or source parts from. I hope you guys will enjoy what I've got planned and provide some comments and suggestions!

Goal
A safe, reliable and complete 400whp (600whp capable) Twincharged 3.1L v6 Camry street monster.

Background
Here's a little back story on where my car stands now. I got my 2000 Camry v6 auto-trans back in 2006, and have been modifying it ever since. Everything I know about modifying cars has been from learning as I go on my Camry. Last summer (2011) a couple TN guys and myself swapped in a 5 speed trans. The car is currently TRD supercharged at 5.5psi with lots of goodies. Some of it's current mods are methanol injection, NST crank pulley, poly trans mount, 305cc injectors, walbro 255 fuel pump, NGK plugs and wires,SAFC2 for fuel tuning, AEM wideband AFR gauge, OBX headers, y-pipe, and muffler, JPP cat-back, Jim's torque rod, Optima yellow top battery, carbon fiber hood, TRD rear struts/springs, K-Sport front coilovers, 17" wheels, drilled and slotted OEM rotors, TRD rear sway bar, TRD front strut tower bar, fidanza flywheel, TWM short-shifter, Jim's Fuel mod, um.. I think that covers most of it.

Car dyno'd at 244whp on a street tune. I definitely feel that with a proper tune and my exhaust not leaking, I could have dyno'd closer to 255whp. Oh, engine has well over 200,000 miles on it. Not sure exactly how much is on it because I replaced the gauge cluster and I have yet to do the math. The engine is also leaking oil and possibly coolant like a mo-fo, and blow-by is considerable.





The Engine
I had the wonderful opportunity to buy Ryan's (Akora12) 3.1L 1MZ a while back and jumped on it. Many of you probably remember this engine, it has a lot of history on the forums. I don't remember the full history, except that Akora installed this engine into his Solara, calling it the "Black Ninja", and then blew up his transmission and decided to part out his car (silly guy). Before that it was in a few different hands, and was once in Gabe (TRD4Life)'s infamous "Red Knight" Solara. Interestingly, it has come full-circle back to Gabe and is now sitting with him up in Maine waiting for my car. The block has been built pretty extensively but the heads have not really been touched except to rebuild them back to OEM spec. All engine work was done before I bought it, however I plan to eventually take the heads off and have them customized. Custom cams, port and polish, custom valves, lifters, etc

Engine specs:
-Block Overbored 0.5mm (0.020")
-Arias Custom-Forged Pistons (9.0:1 Compression Ratio)
-Eagle 22R Custom-Machined Connecting Rods
-Balanced, Magnafluxed and Micropolished Crankshaft
-ARP Head Studs
-ARP Main Studs
-Toyota Avalon VVT-i MLS Head Gaskets
-King Bearings
-Powdercoated Satin-Black Valve Covers
-Powdercoated Satin-Black Block

Forced Induction
So, what to do with a block that should handle 600whp? Twincharge it! I already have a TRD blower, but as we all know, the blower is very boost-limited. Gabe got his hands on an unfinished 1MZ turbo kit, so we decided to finish it and slap it on my car. It comes with a GT35R turbo which we plan to boost starting at 10psi. The boost will feed into a water intercooler before reaching the supercharger. The point of having the supercharger is to eliminate turbo lag and provide power on the low end, as well as some additional boost across the RPM band. Besides, how cool is it to say I have both a turbo and an s/c!? For the s/c we'll be using a 6psi Underdog pulley, however since the engine has lowered compression it will be making less boost, maybe around 5psi? I'm not sure exactly, but total boost should be around 15psi. I don't want to spin the TRD s/c too fast and heat soak the thing. To reduce heat soak, I'm planning to inject a small shot of methanol/water mixture before the throttle body, probably around 625ml. I know I should go for more methanol, but I reaaally don't want to because I hate having to fill that thing up every time I get speed happy on the highway. If I can program multiple tunes, one for with methanol and one for no methanol, then I'd be okay with a bigger shot of meth, maybe up to 1000ml.

Due to the unusual turbo location, Gabe has had to develop a custom radiator set up. Here's a photo of my future radiator being test fitted.


Fuel + Air + Fire = Boom!
I can't remember which pump we're planning to put in, but we are switching to the toyota return-style fuel rails and upgrading the size of the fuel line. Injectors are 525cc. Adding in a plasma booster, Magnacore ignition wires, and colder spark plugs (not sure which to go with yet). Also including a fuel pressure regulator. For the intake, we'll be installing ported and polished lower intake manifold and throttle body. For management, we decided on the Greddy e-Manage Ultimate. I've heard some people recommend it, others not recommend it, but overall the reviews on using this device on our cars gives me confidence about it. I've had a patch harness made and the pigtails wired in so I don't have to worry about botching it myself.

Drivetrain
Obviously, traction is going to be a big issue, so I found an MR2 Turbo transmission, complete with a factory LSD. Besides that, I need to junk the 5 speed I have in my car now. It grinds gears like a mo-fo! Due to it being an LSD transmission, we've had to find mr2 axles and also had some custom axle work done. I was considering building the CV joints, but decided that until I go with sticker/wider tires, I should be fine for now. The way I figure it, I'll break the tires loose before I break an axle. One of the few parts I haven't bought yet is a clutch. I've had my eye on the ACT TY4-XTG6 (xtreme 6 puck sprung). I'm open to suggestions on this one guys. I want something reliable that won't kill my left foot and that I can drive with on the street! I know, it's a tall order...

Suspension, Brakes, and Handling
For now I'll be sticking with the K-Sport Kontrol Pro front coilovers and rear TRD strut/springs. I already have a front TRD strut bar, and rear TRD anti-sway bar. I'll be adding in Energy Suspension front control arm bushings, SuperPro rack and pinion bushings, and a Whiteline front anti-sway bar. For brakes, I'll be upgrading to the twin-piston bolt on set up in front, with ES300 calipers and rotors in the rear. Steel-braided brake lines will be going on as well.

Concerns
Supercharger Heat Soak: I want this car to be reliable and I'll be injecting a 625ml shot of methanol into the supercharger to help prevent heat soak, but the turbo will be feeding into the supercharger which may raise the supercharger temp significantly and leads into my next concern:
Turbo cooling: I'm not very familiar with water intercoolers, and worry about the water not staying cool on hot summer days when driving around town.
Engine Cooling System: Gabe assures me that the radiator will be more than big enough to keep the engine cool, but I can't help but worry about replacing the stock radiator and fan with an aftermarket system.
Head Restriction: The heads are stock, so I'm not too confident about how this will affect overall performance and health of the engine. The lower intake manifold and throttle body will be ported and polished to help with airflow.
Traction: I'm looking into what I can do to limit boost in low gears. I don't want this car to be undriveable in first and second gears or on wet roads.
Cams: I've recently read an article on TN about how stock cams are bad for high boost applications due to valve overlap. The argument was that with the considerable valve overlap that our stock cams have, boost will be lost into the exhaust before the cylinder is compressed, resulting in lowered boost and an inaccurate AFR reading. I definitely need to get some more input on this subject.

Well, that's everything I can think of! I'm sure I'm forgetting some details. I dropped the car off with Gabe last weekend and he's gonna be working hard over the next 1-2 months to finish my car in time for my birthday in April! Will be one kickass birthday this year for me I'm sure.
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Ok, so the Camry is now up in Maine with Gabe, I dropped it off last week and the build has officially commenced! Today I am planning to purchase my clutch and have it shipped to Gabe. I'm considering the ACT TY4-XTG6. It's rated at 645 ft/lbs of torque max, which the ACT guy I talked to said should be around a max of 515 torque to the wheels. Decided to go with the 6-puck sprung over options like an unsprung disk or 4 puck sprung disk because supposedly the 6 puck should offer better heat absorption at the cost of more rotating mass, and the sprung aspect to make it more streetable.

http://www.advancedclutch.com/ty4-xtg6

Here is a teaser pic of my engine with the TRD blower and turbo piping installed that Gabe uploaded yesterday to the GLP Motorsports facebook page. For more pics check out his page I'm too lazy to link them all haha.


Here are some pictures from my battery relocation. It cost me $425 to do at a local car electronics shop. It wasn't the cleanest install, but it gets the job done!




More updates will be coming soon!
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I got the same clutch for my 1mz ! Nice buy

I hear the 6 puck has a harsh engagement, but its mixed reviews. Some guys like the engagement, some dont. my engines still at the damn machine shop so i wont know for a while

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How much is gabe charging you to do this?

< $10,000 or > $10,000
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Incredible, i cant wait to see this thing run!
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this is awesome.
when you said "twincharged" i thought it's like a twin turbo or twin s/c
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I got the same clutch for my 1mz ! Nice buy

I hear the 6 puck has a harsh engagement, but its mixed reviews. Some guys like the engagement, some dont. my engines still at the damn machine shop so i wont know for a while

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How much is gabe charging you to do this?

< $10,000 or > $10,000
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Still not sold on that radiator setup. i think on a really blazing hot summer day, that car is gonna suffer.
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Still not sold on that radiator setup. i think on a really blazing hot summer day, that car is gonna suffer.
Well, if the radiator is a lot thicker than stock I can see it being OK for coolant circulation, but I know for a fact that tony the tiger is using the stock radiator on his car running over 900HP and doesn't have overheating issues?

I think with the turbo design gabe is doing though, the radiator has to be like that because the turbo is going to sit down towards the front of the car near the core support
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Well, if the radiator is a lot thicker than stock I can see it being OK for coolant circulation, but I know for a fact that tony the tiger is using the stock radiator on his car running over 900HP and doesn't have overheating issues?

I think with the turbo design gabe is doing though, the radiator has to be like that because the turbo is going to sit down towards the front of the car near the core support
Yes that is correct, because of the location of the turbo, we must go with an aftermarket radiator.

Cooling is a concern but I trust Gabe's judgement. Tony the Tiger mentioned that the surface area of the radiator is important, and this intercooler certainly has much less surface area than stock. By tony's rationale, this radiator is at a disadvantage for that particular reason. However, maybe the thickness will be enough to compensate? As always with custom set ups like these there is a certain amount that you just simply won't know until you try it and you can't get it all right all the time. So, maybe Gabe's set up will work fine, maybe it won't? Tony may be right about the lack of surface area potentially being a problem, but that doesn't mean that for sure my aftermarket radiator won't get the job done. We'll have to wait for some blisteringly hot summer days to see.

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Yes that is correct, because of the location of the turbo, we must go with an aftermarket radiator.

Cooling is a concern but I trust Gabe's judgement. Tony the Tiger mentioned that the surface area of the radiator is important, and this intercooler certainly has much less surface area than stock. By tony's rationale, this radiator is at a disadvantage for that particular reason. However, maybe the thickness will be enough to compensate? As always with custom set ups like these there is a certain amount that you just simply won't know until you try it and you can't get it all right all the time. So, maybe Gabe's set up will work fine, maybe it won't? Tony may be right about the lack of surface area potentially being a problem, but that doesn't mean that for sure my aftermarket radiator won't get the job done. We'll have to wait for some blisteringly hot summer days to see.
we shall. i assume your losing a fan with this setup as well?
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we shall. i assume your losing a fan with this setup as well?
Loosing the stock fan but replacing it with an aftermarket one.
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