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Troyfrezze · 12-03-2004, 06:37 PM

Ok, this is a very urgent need guy and gals. I have just finished searching the board after getting home, and can't find what I"m looking for so I'm hoping someone here can help.

Today my bro and I took my car up to on base to work on the engine. I needed to replace my rear main seal, oil pan seal and front motor mount, by the end of the day I was just about ready to replace the oil pan seal but we got stalled up when removing the transmission from the car. Here is where I need the help. the transmission mount next to the driver side wheel has one nut stripped so we can not remove the mount from the frame. The transmission is no longer attached to it though, so that's not a problem..yet. we have been able to pull the transmission away from the fly wheel but I can only get about a 2 inch gap in there. We can't get the transmission out of the engine bay for some reason. Both axles are removed so I can replace the boots. So if anyone here can please help me with this I'd appreciate it. The car is parked there over night, so I get to start working on it at 8am in the morning, so I really really need some answers tonight.

userlain · 12-03-2004, 06:47 PM

What exactly is your question?

Get an impact wrench and work the stripped nut out.

Go to a hardware store(not ACE or whatever, one that carries grade 10.8 hardware) and pick up a new nut. Take in the old one and they should be able to match it up.

EDIT: pictures would hel pa bunch, also. If you hvea time.

Troyfrezze · 12-03-2004, 06:56 PM

An air wrench is what stripped it to begin with, It was set to forward when we first used it and didn't notice it. We can't get it to come down at all and that's something we have been working on for about two hours. Here is the question I am asking help with. We have the car up on the lift, the transmission isn't attached to anything any longer. We can move the trany around in the bay a little bit, enough movemt towards the drivers side so that it seperates from the engine. But since we can not remove the tranny mount we can't seem to get it to move any further. we have the tranny supported by a stand, but still we can't pick it up enough, or lower it out of the bay. It's just kinda stuck in there. I'm hoping someone who's removed the transmission before can give me some advice in removing it. I can't take any pictures right now since the shop is closed, and I'm home. I can't take any tomorrow, cause I'll be at the shop first thing in the morning. I get charged per hour, so the longer it takes to take the transmission out, the longer it takes and the more I have to pay

userlain · 12-03-2004, 07:27 PM

Have you disconencted the shifter throw cable? And all the clutch stuff?

Troyfrezze · 12-03-2004, 07:50 PM

correct, all connections, *xept one electrical* are removed. That one connection isn't the problem, and will be connected when reachable. It comes down to this...if we move the transmission away from the engine, and try to raise it, it hits the fender well. It won't seem to lower either for some reason. We can't move it any farther out of the wheel well because the tranny mount is blocking it. I can't remove the tranny mount cause the "threads" are stripped. I'm considering just takeing the saw zaw to the bolt to cut it, but I just checked the price on Advanced auto parts for a new mount, and it's like 177 friggin bucks! I'm not going to pay that! So yea, all we need to do is move it aside, or out of the way to get acces to removing and replacing the rear main seals and gaskets.

Toysrme · 12-03-2004, 07:56 PM

If it's jsut a nut then go buy a nut splitter...

If it's a bolt take the next smallest size SAE socket, or .5mm smaller (if you own .5mm sockets) And beat the mother *u**i** socket on with a hammer. That's why every tool made comes with lifetime warrenties.

Toysrme · 12-03-2004, 07:57 PM

And yes... A sawzall solves all.

Troyfrezze · 12-03-2004, 08:42 PM

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these are two images that I pulled from the Haynes manual...If neither of them work, go to this link..
http://www.partsamerica.com/PartDeta...ype=27&PTSet=A

The bolts from the mount go down through the frame of the car. You only access to them is from two holes in the frame. Large enough only to get a finger, or a socket through. I just feel like there has got to be an easier way. are we doing this right? Shouldn't all we need to do is to just move the transmission to one side to get the fly wheel off?

Troyfrezze · 12-03-2004, 10:59 PM

Comeon guys...This is a very time limited post. I have to know something either tonight before I hit the sack, or when I get up in the Am before I head to the shop. Is there any advice anyone can give? Take the tranny out from the top? Take it out from the bottom? Do this and you have enough clearance to replace the seals! I'm needing the help now cause once I leave in the morning, if anyone post, it won't do me any good by then.

jefe · 12-03-2004, 11:32 PM

Can you hammer on a socket through the hole using an extension to get at the stripped nut? It osunds like you wouldn't be able to get a nut splitter to work if you only have restricted, end-on access.

Troyfrezze · 12-04-2004, 12:01 AM

yea, I have access to the nut just fine, it's just the threads either on it, or on the bolt are stripped. When ever we try to remove it, it just turns on the bolt, and won't come down. i tried to get a pry bar under the mount to lift it while my friend used the air ratchet to try and get it off. No good though...

I guess tomorrow we are just going to go play with it some more....maybe we will be able to figure it out in the morning. I just hope to get it out of the way so we can replace the rear main, and get everything back together. One can wish right?

jefe · 12-04-2004, 12:09 AM

So you do have access to the nuts, but access to the bolts is limited? If this is the case why can't you use a nut-splitter to get the nut off?

Toysrme · 12-04-2004, 12:59 AM

You can't link pictures on your own computer. You have to host them on the internet and link.
www.photobucket.com

I still say everyone should own a nutsplitter. That's the easy way to get them off.

1) hammer/wedge a smaller socket on the nut/bolt
2) use a stripped nut/bolt tool
3) Split the nut
4) use a bolt/screw back out tool
5) cut the bolt

Any way you go you need to replace the thing. Just cut it off, run down to a car/hardware/toyota store and buy a replacement.

userlain · 12-04-2004, 02:42 AM

Procedure for stripped not/bolt removal(requires 2 people)
1: Use WD-40 on the head of the bolt/nut
2: When the WD-40 has evaporated, spray penetrating oil on the nut/bolt liberally
3: Repeat step 2
4: WHen the penetrating oil appears dry, light up a propane torch and heat up the area around the bolt(not the bolt it's self, we want the area around the bolt to expand so it is easier to remove
5: Use a pair of visegrips and a steal pipe and crank it off.

Go to an automotive hardware store and get a grade 10.8 bolt/nut as a replacement, have them cut it to length.

userlain · 12-04-2004, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Troyfrezze

yea, I have access to the nut just fine, it's just the threads either on it, or on the bolt are stripped. When ever we try to remove it, it just turns on the bolt, and won't come down. i tried to get a pry bar under the mount to lift it while my friend used the air ratchet to try and get it off. No good though...

I guess tomorrow we are just going to go play with it some more....maybe we will be able to figure it out in the morning. I just hope to get it out of the way so we can replace the rear main, and get everything back together. One can wish right?

Actually, just keep spinning it so the metal expands and use a visegrip to pull out the bolt/nut whatever.