3sge in gen 4.5 camry? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Pugg1107 · 02-01-2005, 08:26 PM

Hey TN'ers, would it be worth it to swap a 3sge into my 2000 cam(automatic /5sfe)? If so how difficult would it be? i know its a direct drop in for my car but im not quite sure about the wiring.

bowlofturtle · 02-01-2005, 08:31 PM

it can be done. But a bigger question would be why are you trying to do it.

Pugg1107 · 02-01-2005, 08:41 PM

well dont get me wrong, i love the 5sfe for its torque but as far as making power its not easy at all unless you go turbo and i just dont wanna go that route because of the tech issues and $$$. I'd like to stay all motor beacuse IMO its alot more reliable and also theres a nice amount of aftermarket support for the 3sge.

Gachinto · 02-01-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugg1107

well dont get me wrong, i love the 5sfe for its torque but as far as making power its not easy at all unless you go turbo and i just dont wanna go that route because of the tech issues and $$$. I'd like to stay all motor beacuse IMO its alot more reliable and also theres a nice amount of aftermarket support for the 3sge.

y not 1MZ-FE ?

Pugg1107 · 02-01-2005, 10:13 PM

Because i want to stay all motor and theres not really that much aftermarket support other than goin superchargered or turboed

Pugg1107 · 02-01-2005, 10:14 PM

Dunno if anyone saw the other part of my original statement but does now how difficult this swap would be? and around how much it would cost?

terrastrife · 02-01-2005, 10:18 PM

a different engine mount or 2, maybe axles, harness wiring, erm... anythign else?

Pugg1107 · 02-01-2005, 11:04 PM

Would i have to rewired anything? or jus get the new harness?

CamNub · 02-02-2005, 12:18 AM

This will be hard because from my knowledge, its never been done before.
It's been brought up a few times but people haven't gone thru w/ it.

Before you do this. Read up all you can because you won't have anyone w/ first hand experience. You'd be all on your own.

Tommy · 02-02-2005, 12:28 AM

well as far as it being a direct bolt in...thats incorrect.

3S block has different mounting points than the 5S block. So you would need custom mounts for everything. Axles probably wont work. Youll need a new harness. Um...well lets see you'll need a new everything.

fair enough? dont do it, not worth it. would be a very difficult swap.

Deuce · 02-02-2005, 12:57 AM

3SGE w/VVTi - 207hp
5SFE - 128-135hp

i think its worth it, but i don't think they have a 3SGE with the VVTi oriented for FWD (its in the RWD Altezza/Eurospec Lexus IS)

terrastrife · 02-02-2005, 01:16 AM

a boosted 5s will be around 200hp, and cost about half of the price of a conversion, NOT including the cost of the new engine

***Razo-E*** · 02-02-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by B Deuce

3SGE w/VVTi - 207hp
5SFE - 128-135hp

i think its worth it, but i don't think they have a 3SGE with the VVTi oriented for FWD (its in the RWD Altezza/Eurospec Lexus IS)

MR2 and the Celica in japan have it in a horizontally opposed config...

Deuce · 02-02-2005, 01:52 AM

3SGE VVTi or 3SGTE?

***Razo-E*** · 02-02-2005, 01:57 AM

both..

the 200 hp version of the Beams 3SGE...

the only RWD 210hp version is in the Altezza RS200