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post #1 of 12 Old 05-15-2017, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Having issues with the rear brakes dragging

The rear brakes on my 95 Camry were dragging, the caliper was hard to push in so I replaced both calipers with new hardware. I greased the pins and bled the brakes and the rear brakes are still dragging a little, not as bad as before but still drags. The pads and rotors are a few months old and I don't know why the rear brakes are still dragging? I was thinking a brake hose but when open the bleeder there is no fluid pressure that shoots out. Any ideas?
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old swelling flex hoses can cause that problem. also, forgetting to put the separating springs on the edges of the pads to keep them apart when brakes aren't applied could cause that. they touch the rotor slightly anyways, by design but shouldn't be dragging. i don't know what your definition of dragging is though. if you are hearing scraping when turning the wheel, that's probably fine. if you are using an infrared thermometer on them after a long drive and the rears are higher in temp than the fronts, then there's a problem. or are you referring to possibly dust shield(s) rubbing the rotor(s)?
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Are you able to freely turn the wheel (with the tire/wheel on) without much issue? It should turn a couple of times without issue. If it is a bit 'sticky', it is dragging. It is normal to hear a slight 'scrap scrap scrap' when turning the wheel off the ground where the rotor meets the brake pad.

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Is your handbrake adjusted properly?
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Are you able to freely turn the wheel (with the tire/wheel on) without much issue? It should turn a couple of times without issue. If it is a bit 'sticky', it is dragging. It is normal to hear a slight 'scrap scrap scrap' when turning the wheel off the ground where the rotor meets the brake pad.
The wheels don't freely turn, it turns about one revolution and stops. When I'm driving I can hear scrapping and rubbing noises.


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old swelling flex hoses can cause that problem. also, forgetting to put the separating springs on the edges of the pads to keep them apart when brakes aren't applied could cause that. they touch the rotor slightly anyways, by design but shouldn't be dragging. i don't know what your definition of dragging is though. if you are hearing scraping when turning the wheel, that's probably fine. if you are using an infrared thermometer on them after a long drive and the rears are higher in temp than the fronts, then there's a problem. or are you referring to possibly dust shield(s) rubbing the rotor(s)?
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I'm also thinking it is a hose problem. Usually if it is a hose problem the fluid will squirt out when cracking the bleeder after pumping the brake pedal several times. When I opened the bleeder no fluid squirted out, it just dripped. But everything else is all clean and lubricated. I don't have an infrared thermometer but pretty sure the rears will be hotter than the front because of the rubbing and scrapping noises.

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Is your handbrake adjusted properly?
I believe the hand brake is adjusted properly. It works and grabs well and never had any issues with it. I always use it after I park. How can I tell if the hand brake is adjusted properly?
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I was wondering about the parking brakes too. Since you already have new calipers, rotors, and pads!

When the parking brakes fully released, you should have about 8 clicks in the adjuster wheel before the shoes lock.
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Yes, it is the parking brake shoes causing the rubbing and dragging. I removed the bracket and pads and the rotor didn't spin freely. I took off the rotor and there was a lot of brake dust and a broken shoe material inside. I bought the new shoes and hardware kit and rotors. Is there a write up on how do adjust the shoes properly? Do I lubricate the star wheel or install it dry?
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You lubricate the star wheel cylinder internally so it rotates and spreads smoothly. I believe the FSM procedure is to have it at minimum travel, then spread the shoes with the star wheel until the rotor/drum locks, then back off 8 clicks on the star wheel.

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Just in time, here's another of Insight's recent writeup on the ES drum-in-disc type parking brake, have a look.

See also the rear-drum type (sounds like you have the drum-in-disc type parking brakes as you replaced calipers) but similar:
DIY: GEN 3 Brake Shoe Replacement and Parking Brake Adjustment

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What a royal pita!! I'm trying to install the parking brakes shoes and I'm having a very hard time getting the hold pin, spring, bottom plate and cap on. There is barely any room to get your fingers in there to compress the spring and at the same time holding the pin in at the back of the plate so it won't move. Every time I try to compress the cap to get it on the pin, my fingers get so sore and I'm pushing on it and trying to twist the cap but when I think I have it, the pin moves back and everything shoots out. I wish I can use a brake spring tool but there is no room for the tool to work. I have been messing with this for hrs and I can't get the dam spring on. There has to be a trick on getting this on? Any ideas?
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Best way is to remove the hub makes installing the e-brake hardware easy.

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I will try that, hopefully the hub will come off easy
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