5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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Fun read for all the camry fans out there , interesting that on the Specs & Performance part of the article it lists the 0-60 time for the Camry at 6.5 SECONDS! WTH!
Its a shame the Camry has traction control. These tests are done with enough throttle not to spin the wheels and not get the revs up...so its like a "spirited" take off test. If it didnt have TC...and you brake started it to stall speed and let her rip...imagine what it do...6 flat? hehe possible
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Fun read for all the camry fans out there , interesting that on the Specs & Performance part of the article it lists the 0-60 time for the Camry at 6.5 SECONDS! WTH!
WOW. 6.5 Seconds??? Are you serious? Sports car use to have 6.5 second time and I'm not talking about many years ago. My buddy use to have a 1990 Corvette and it was around 6 second range. Ok, that's a 16 year old car. A Camry is still seen a conservative low profile family car and that is incredible that it's 6.5 second. It's a wolf in sheep skin!!!
I'm happy now, I take back what I said in another post about the 0-60 times. I know someone here recently got one without Trac. Contr. and VSC. I went to a dealer last night, the sales woman was really nice and answered all o my q's, and did not BS at all. They don't have 4 cyl. SE Manual Trans. in tri-state area, but she said and her manager said that they will gladly order one any color but the 4 Cyl. SE Manual Trans. cannot be had with leather, so she said the cost will be around $1,500 to have leather put in after delivery in the service shop. It'll take 6-8 weeks for delivery, price came out to around $22,000 with moonroof. But this Auto V6 looks tempting, I recently had a 2006 330i to my self for a whole day, and that thing is rediculously fast, but if this Camry is faster...
I'm really surprised that Edmunds didn't hammer on the shift lethargy of the 6spd.
Here are some things I noticed on my recent test drive...........
#1.) Take off from a dead-start is less than inspiring at something other than "floor-it" mode. It actually hesitates for a second (compared to the I-4) and there's a feeling as though the first inch of gas-pedal is actually "dead" or "not-responsive".
#2.) During gas-pedal drops at speed, the car seeks for a gear in an unusually abrupt way. Once you're in gear, upshifts are pleasant, but the "at speed" stuff is not becoming of a Toyota.......(imho).
IOW, my Gen 4 with the I-4 and 4spd seeks and finds gear much more quickly and smoothly than the V6/6spd combo. Also, FWIW, the I-4/5spd auto didn't seem to share this problem. I think 5 gears is plenty as my 4spd in my Gen4 seems like plenty already.
As an additional note, check the thread in this forum about "1st Gen6 problem". He describes some of the things I noticed in my test drive and they would DEFINITELY keep me from buying a V-6........at least right now. Perhaps we're looking at some *first-round* recall work??? Or perhaps it'll improve in the '08??
If I were shopping one right now (and I'm seriously considering it) I'd have to go I-4 w/ the 4spd auto............or perhaps go contemporary w/ the Hybrid.
I'm really surprised that Edmunds didn't hammer on the shift lethargy of the 6spd.
Here are some things I noticed on my recent test drive...........
#1.) Take off from a dead-start is less than inspiring at something other than "floor-it" mode. It actually hesitates for a second (compared to the I-4) and there's a feeling as though the first inch of gas-pedal is actually "dead" or "not-responsive".
#2.) During gas-pedal drops at speed, the car seeks for a gear in an unusually abrupt way. Once you're in gear, upshifts are pleasant, but the "at speed" stuff is not becoming of a Toyota.......(imho).
IOW, my Gen 4 with the I-4 and 4spd seeks and finds gear much more quickly and smoothly than the V6/6spd combo. Also, FWIW, the I-4/5spd auto didn't seem to share this problem. I think 5 gears is plenty as my 4spd in my Gen4 seems like plenty already.
As an additional note, check the thread in this forum about "1st Gen6 problem". He describes some of the things I noticed in my test drive and they would DEFINITELY keep me from buying a V-6........at least right now. Perhaps we're looking at some *first-round* recall work??? Or perhaps it'll improve in the '08??
If I were shopping one right now (and I'm seriously considering it) I'd have to go I-4 w/ the 4spd auto............or perhaps go contemporary w/ the Hybrid.
This has to do with the adaptive transmission. Once u own it and it learns your driving style it will shift smoothly, don't divert peoples minds by taking a little test drive.
This has to do with the adaptive transmission. Once u own it and it learns your driving style it will shift smoothly, don't divert peoples minds by taking a little test drive.
That explains away absolutely ZERO of the dead spot at the gas pedal.
I also forgot to mention that the one I drove took a serious *jump* that day too at about 30-40mph. I don't know what it was, but it was during normal acceleration and I would very highly doubt has anything to do with "adaptive" algorithms for shift points!
I wonder if Toyota is using the old Mercedes trick, having the car start out in second gear on anything but a full throttle launch. Makes the launch smoother and helps gas mileage. I doubt it though.
Think about this, Car and Driver complained about the VSC and TRAC systems, saying that their test Camry wouldn't tolerate an aggressive launch at all. Even worse, it says that if you try to snap shift the car into second gear to get some wheelspin chirp, the car slaps you on the wrist with a half second of nothing. And that was an I-4 SE with a manual transmission.
With the electronic throttle setup, Toyota basically has total control on how the Camry launches. It's a good way to control torque steer and spinning tires for one thing, especially with the V6. VSC and TRAC make it even worse. Not that I agree with it, but obviously Toyota is crippling the cars acceleration potential to make it safer. 99% of Camry owners would never notice or care.
I also bet that some smart guys will figure out how to get around it.
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2007 Camry XLE V6, 0-60 time and review..
, interesting that on the Specs & Performance part of the article it lists the 0-60 time for the Camry at 6.5 SECONDS! WTH! 
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