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Old 08-01-2006, 01:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Who makes that? How much? Also what kind of difference do you feel?
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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well, the intake is Injen as it says on the pipe. gains might be minor as with any intake but noticable if the original air filter was hella clogged.

at any rate, it looks good
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea Its Injen, Cost About 230, I Like It Alot, Pickup Is Noticeable Difference For Sure, Gas Mileage Seems Like Im Getting Some Extra Also
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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^Incorrect. There are no gains from the intake, and I can prove this to you as a fact if you'd like me to. I had it. I sold it. Car runs the same. The increased noise makes you think that you're actually going faster. Either way, it looks and sounds nice.
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u sure whitechocolate, i do notice a etter throttle response, definitely feels quicker off the line when i punch it
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Old 08-02-2006, 06:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i agree w/ white chocolate... had one too.. no noticable gains... just looks cool
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I have an Injen on my corolla. Makes it worse most of the times. It only works fairly in cooler weather. Other than that it just sucks. Makes my MAF really dirty.
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now can u prove it i was considering gettintingtheinjenintake,
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^Incorrect. There are no gains from the intake, and I can prove this to you as a fact if you'd like me to. I had it. I sold it. Car runs the same. The increased noise makes you think that you're actually going faster. Either way, it looks and sounds nice.
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^Incorrect. There are no gains from the intake, and I can prove this to you as a fact if you'd like me to. I had it. I sold it. Car runs the same. The increased noise makes you think that you're actually going faster. Either way, it looks and sounds nice.
Please prove it im really curious.
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Old 09-21-2006, 10:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Information Provided by Toysrme (a mechanic)

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Why most headlight, hood, and scoop induction systems are COMPLETE CRAP!
They:
1) Are never located close to a point on the vehicle where the airflow can compress itself to the highest degree possible



2) The scoop is simply not even exponentially close to being large enough to effectively compress the charge at any attainable speed, at anything above low throttle angles.
The typical pre-filter stock import intake (Which are normally well designed, and DON'T give much horsepower) most stock intakes are CAI + resonators.
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Before the filter @ 60mph, Pressure loss in the intake (0 = better, lower = better):
Stock : 8 in/water
No intake (Short pod intake): 0 in/water
CAI: 4 in/water
Headlight replacement ram-air: 2in/water
*Perfect huge ram air*: 4in/water
*Closed* throttle @ 60mph pre-filter POSITIVE PRESSURE (Higher = better):
Stock: 0 in/water
Short intake: 0.25 in/water
CAI: 0.25 in/water
Headlight replacement ram-air: 2.5 in/water
*Perfect huge ram air*: 5in/water
Wide open throttle total VACUUM post filter airbox, pre AFM/MAF (0 = better, others referenced from best vacuum):
Stock: -3.5 in/water
Short intake: 0 in/water
CAI: -1.18 in/water
Headlight replacement ram-air: -0.7 in/water
*Perfect huge ram air*: -5 in/water
Wide Open Throttle @ 60mph, pre-filter POSITIVE PRESSURE (Higher = better):
Stock: 0 in/water
Short intake: 0.25 in/water
CAI: 0.25 in/water
Headlight replacement ram-air: 0.78 in/water
*Perfect huge ram air*: 1.9 in/water


As can be seen.... Most intake claims are full of **i*.

Just for the total newbies that glance through the numbers... That was in/water. 1 in/water = 0.0361 psi. 1 psi = 27.68 in/water. If you can't tell, this is an *extremely* small amount of flow difference Between everything.



In-bay engine temperatures are generally only 5-20*F above ambient with the car moving at 30mph. Except for a turbo, or supercharger application where the intake temeprature will rise greatly, an N/A engine will not see much difference either way between in bay, CAI, or RAM. Have fun with that.


Once you get past basic intake restrictions themselves that can normally, easily be solved. All intakes are pretty much the same, unless you start creating problems - which a lot of people do & don't realize.





Also... The pressure drop difference between a K&N filter, and a new Toyota panel filter is ONLY 0.472 in/water difference! That's a 0.0298psi difference in intake pressure. 0.0298psi !?!?!?!?

Useless.
Do yourself a favor. Save your money for something that's worth it, like a turbo/SC, or maybe a projector retrofit, or some new rims.
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Please prove it im really curious.
I argue against his theory. If you have some time on your hand, here's a link to our recent debate: http://toyotanation.com/forum/t154996-2.html
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Please clarrify this for me...what is the purpose of a sri or cai? Cuz imo i thought it was to intkae more air at a faster rate(sri) or intake more dense air....But everyone is saying more air is shoved in to the throttle body? Well woulden't you need a larger throttle body to actually benfit from this? I mean the rate at whihc air goes through thr throttle body is the same even if you put an aftermarket intake. So there technically should be no difference....LAstly i thought the only purpose for a CAI was for force induced cars to actually benefit. Correct me if i'm wron..but anywyas back to the topic...despite the debate it looks great and sounds awesome
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Wow that thread was intense. Umm wouldn't it be better to just invest that money in a good exhaust system. Seems as though you would get a larger HP gain and a nice sound as well.

I might be repeating what Webb26 posted but:
According to http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question257.htm the engine computer will always try to make a Perfect Mixture which is 14.7:1(Which means 14.7 part air and 1 part gasoline). Wouldn't the computer regulate the air intake so that the chambers always achieve this ratio? And if so wouldn't forcing more air reguardless of its temp only ruin the ratio causing a Lean Mixture which would then be pickedup by the airflow sensor and be adjusted back to the Perfect Mixture?? Correct me if im wrong because im still trying to learn this.

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