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I just detailed my 07' SE (dark charcoal colored) and drove to Chicago. It had rained just a little that night and the next morning the car had this hardened layer over the whole car. As if someone had sprayed 7up soda over it. I wash it the next day and now I have little circles and spots eched into the clearcoat. I tried 3m's fine cut rubbing compound and that helped a little. Toyota looked at it as well. They said they would have to wet sand the whole thing a I don't think I want them to do that either. A Toyota rep will be looking at it in about 2 weeks.
Any thoughts?
I have 3000 miles on the car. Venture film (protective film)on the front end, tint, radar hardwired and a sub in the trunk.
The only thing I can think of is to swap this for another car.
Warranty should tace care of it.... Let them figure it out until they get it right, they can give you a rental to drive around and let them deal with the problem, If you take it to another shop and te problem comes back they will not garantee the original paint..
Good luck
Go buy the Mothers Clar Bar Kit, then use the cleaner wax the kit comes with, then a nice coat of Mothers Pure Carnuba Wax wait a day and use Turtle Wax Ice to finish it off
I just detailed my 07' SE (dark charcoal colored) and drove to Chicago. It had rained just a little that night and the next morning the car had this hardened layer over the whole car. As if someone had sprayed 7up soda over it. I wash it the next day and now I have little circles and spots eched into the clearcoat. I tried 3m's fine cut rubbing compound and that helped a little. Toyota looked at it as well. They said they would have to wet sand the whole thing a I don't think I want them to do that either. A Toyota rep will be looking at it in about 2 weeks.
Any thoughts?
I have 3000 miles on the car. Venture film (protective film)on the front end, tint, radar hardwired and a sub in the trunk.
The only thing I can think of is to swap this for another car.
Let me get this straight: You have 3,000 miles on the car?
You have washed and waxed and washed and waxed, you've used 3M rubbing compound, and on and on and on -- and this is the dealer's problem, even to the point of giving you a new car?
Gosh, I sure don't think so. If the paint was OK for most of those 3,000 miles, then, well, "the paint was OK." You must have gotten something on it. Not to say it was your fault at all -- some truck or factory might have been misting something that adhered to your car, unbeknownst to you until you tried to clean it the next time. Or something to that effect.
I would think that a competent detail shop ought to be able to help -- I'd sure try that before doing anything like sanding the clearcoat down. What you can do with rubbing compound and what a detail shop can do with their power polishers is night and day different -- at the least, take it to a reputable detail shop, and see what they think about the situation!
Oh, and if the dealer would agree to actually do something as part of the warranty, my eyes would absolutely bug out like this ->
I have similar experience after parking near a sprinkler overnight. I don't know when it turn on but the water spot has some sort of deposit in it and it is impossible to remove. I agree with thoots that I don't think the warranty would cover things like that.
As for the spots, they went away after half a year or so.
I have similar experience after parking near a sprinkler overnight. I don't know when it turn on but the water spot has some sort of deposit in it and it is impossible to remove. I agree with thoots that I don't think the warranty would cover things like that.
As for the spots, they went away after half a year or so.
This is from hard water. Hard water has a high content of minerals that can affect taste, and in this case, and maybe even in chitty's case, can leave residue on the surace of cars, dishes, mirros, etc. The "spots" are left after the H2O evaporates, and leaves the minerals behind. After this happens, it can be a pain to get them clean.
Chitty, do you use hard water when washing your car? My 4Runner is Anthracite Grey (very similiar to Magnetic Grey Metallic) and I try not to wash it when it is very sunny outside since I have hard water as well. The problem is when you use hard water, the sun can evaporate the water before you get a chance to dry it with a towel, and leave the little spots "etched" into the paint.
To take these spots off, I recommend re-washing using Dawn dish detergent and dry right away. Then use Meguilars Quick Detail to finish it off. If theya re still on there, then you will need to do a full blown wax and polish with an orbital polisher.
To get around this, user soft water to wash your car from now on (if you can). I had to redo my plumbing to get one outdoor spicket of soft water.
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Even under the Basic Coverage (commonly known as Bumper-to-Bumper Warranty), Toyota won't claim responsibilty for your problem. It sounds like by forces out of your control, your car was exposed to some foreign corrosive matter, which Toyota would deem is your responsibity to get it fixed. You would have a better chance of getting your car insurance company to cover it.
Also, you say you detailed your car (or had someone detail it), I would think that whatever wax/sealant that was appied would have protected your paint against such damage. When I bought my Camry, knowing full well that the cleaning and "waxing" the dealer does for the delivery has next to NO protection for your paint, I put a couple coats of my own wax/sealant on. I recommend Collinite 476S Super Doublecoat Wax. Apply one coat, then on the following day add one more coat. Not only will car have "SUPER" protection from the elements, but the beading properties of this wax is incredible and its durability is among the better on the market.
For more help on taking care of your new car, check out this website below. Lots of helpful info and helpful people. I'm sure a good number of people here already know of this site. I used to detail autos for years, but still didn't know everything there is to know.
Unless people have money to burn, "buying" a car is an investment and you gotta take care of it. Technically, the bank owns it until you send in that last payment assuming everyone finances their vehicles.
This is from hard water. Hard water has a high content of minerals that can affect taste, and in this case, and maybe even in chitty's case, can leave residue on the surace of cars, dishes, mirros, etc. The "spots" are left after the H2O evaporates, and leaves the minerals behind. After this happens, it can be a pain to get them clean.
Chitty, do you use hard water when washing your car? My 4Runner is Anthracite Grey (very similiar to Magnetic Grey Metallic) and I try not to wash it when it is very sunny outside since I have hard water as well. The problem is when you use hard water, the sun can evaporate the water before you get a chance to dry it with a towel, and leave the little spots "etched" into the paint.
To take these spots off, I recommend re-washing using Dawn dish detergent and dry right away. Then use Meguilars Quick Detail to finish it off. If theya re still on there, then you will need to do a full blown wax and polish with an orbital polisher.
To get around this, user soft water to wash your car from now on (if you can). I had to redo my plumbing to get one outdoor spicket of soft water.
I have the same problem with hard water. I too found Dawn to be the best alternative to car wash. It seems to break down the mineral spots much better. As he stated, avoid any contact with direct sunlight while washing and drying. I don't have any shade at my home, so I drive directly to the park for a quick dry and wax. The only difference is that I use Mequires gold class liquid wax.
Warranty should tace care of it.... Let them figure it out until they get it right, they can give you a rental to drive around and let them deal with the problem, If you take it to another shop and te problem comes back they will not garantee the original paint..
Good luck
That's right. Leave it for dealer (Toyota). WARRANTY.
I will try to take a picture of the spots this weekend. If they will show on the camera.
The spoting is not from hard water. At my home I have a desinated water spiqot that is hooked up to my water softner. Then I have the filtered water sprayer and the car is only washed in the afternoon in the shade. I have had mineral deposits from hard water before and those I can handle and remove. The only time I have seen something like this before is when I had a car repainted with a Glaserat clearcoat and when bird poop would sit on it for more than one hour it would etch itself into the clearcoat. The only thing that would remove it with that car was the 3m rubbing compound.
I use a professional orbital and never get swirls. The rubbing compound really only works with a orbital. The Toyota detail shop tried it as well and could only fix it as well as I did. But the etching is still slightly visable. So that is why the Toyota rep will be coming to take a look at it. Every 07' Camrys paint must be F'd up in Chicago.
I use a professional orbital and never get swirls. The rubbing compound really only works with a orbital. The Toyota detail shop tried it as well and could only fix it as well as I did. But the etching is still slightly visable. So that is why the Toyota rep will be coming to take a look at it.
Yeesh!
OK, if you've already used power tools on the thing, that's a whole different story!
Beyond what you've already done or are heading towards, you might indeed head for autopia.com or other detail forums, and see what those guys have to say -- if you haven't already. Gosh, someone must have run into this kind of thing before, and ought to be able to tell you what they did about it....
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