Smart Key & Remote Start

[wtliao]

I have 07 Camry XLE V6 with Smart key system. Is it true that the smart key system also comes with Remote Start feature or Remote start is an options needs installed seperately?

It is getting cold now so it would be lovely to warm the car before entering it. I tried the remote start steps it never works for me..Just wondering.

Thanks for your comment.

[pillpusher84]

Originally Posted by wtliao

I have 07 Camry XLE V6 with Smart key system. Is it true that the smart key system also comes with Remote Start feature or Remote start is an options needs installed seperately?

It is getting cold now so it would be lovely to warm the car before entering it. I tried the remote start steps it never works for me..Just wondering.

Thanks for your comment.

Unless you paid for the remote start option from the factory, which I did, then presssing the lock button twice then holding the lock buttonj down for two seconds will not start your car even though you have the Smart Key.


I am just curious, I got my car in March, as soon as the 07 cam out & I was wondering, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for your car before all tax, title & all other BS fees?


I got a Metallic Gray XLE V6 w/ NAV, Remote Start, Smart Key - Paid $29,000 b4 fees.

[wtliao]

Originally Posted by pillpusher84

Unless you paid for the remote start option from the factory, which I did, then presssing the lock button twice then holding the lock buttonj down for two seconds will not start your car even though you have the Smart Key.


I am just curious, I got my car in March, as soon as the 07 cam out & I was wondering, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for your car before all tax, title & all other BS fees?


I got a Metallic Gray XLE V6 w/ NAV, Remote Start, Smart Key - Paid $29,000 b4 fees.

I will check my car again to see if I have remote start system. Thanks for your reply.

You got a good deal. Mine is 30K before tax, My car was the 2nd Camry my dealer sold back in March. Since it was new and just came out and many people want it, so it was like $1500 off MSRP. I think it was good enough, all goodies on this car it's worth for it. Now I saw many people got close to invoice price I just hope I did more research on this website before I purchsed it.

[pillpusher84]

Originally Posted by wtliao

I will check my car again to see if I have remote start system. Thanks for your reply.

You got a good deal. Mine is 30K before tax, My car was the 2nd Camry my dealer sold back in March. Since it was new and just came out and many people want it, so it was like $1500 off MSRP. I think it was good enough, all goodies on this car it's worth for it. Now I saw many people got close to invoice price I just hope I did more research on this website before I purchsed it.

Same here - my dealer didn't even have any V6s forget the XLE. It so happened that another dealer wanted an Avalon they had so they swapped, and this one that came in was fully loaded w/ the remote start & all, so i took it. Otherwise, to wait around for one specifically with the remote start, I don't think i would have - i mainly just wanted the NAV!


Since the remote start feature (i believe the code is V4 - check ur window sticker or sales slip) is a factory installed option - NOT a dealer installed option, I would venture to say that all XLEs are pre-wired, so all you have to do probably is buy the unit & install it - I have no knowledge of this first hand, i'm just speculating. I'll look into it a little bit today if i have a chance, but today I'm installing a backup camera to the navi unit, so i don't know how much time i'll have to look around.

[pillpusher84]

One thing with the remote start that is stupid.


It doesn't work like an aftermarket system. Once you remotely start the car, and you go to get into it - as soon as you grab the handle, the car shuts off & you have to re-start the car. In an aftermarket system you get in with the car running & press the brake after you turn the key to on, but since there is no key, it's kinda hard to implement this procedure i guess!

[Joe B]

Originally Posted by pillpusher84

One thing with the remote start that is stupid.


It doesn't work like an aftermarket system. Once you remotely start the car, and you go to get into it - as soon as you grab the handle, the car shuts off & you have to re-start the car. In an aftermarket system you get in with the car running & press the brake after you turn the key to on, but since there is no key, it's kinda hard to implement this procedure i guess!

I agree.
It's still better than not having the system at all.

[BadChicken]

I think one thing they could have done to improve the system is when you get in the car, if you held the remote up to the start button it would override the system and not kill the car. That way it would still work like the aftermarket system and shut the car off if the brake is pressed. I'm not a big fan of having the car shut off when the doors are unlocked. Just my 2 cents

[triz]

i'm not a fan of it either. I start my car in the morning and it turns off when I open the door! Where did they ever come up with that?

Yes automatically locking the doors is a good idea when remote starting but why can't I unlock with the smart key and keep it running? My aftermarket locked the doors and I just hit unlock and then pressed the brake.. Is it alright to turn the car off and immediately restart it?

Are there any Smart Key experts here? I've got a few things I've been meaning to try:

1. If I am driving down the road and throw the smart key out the window what happens. Will the car continue to run? It can't kill the engine, can it?

2. If I start the car and get out carrying the smart key will my car eventually shut off? I parked in the fire lane the other day and it started beeping so i threw the key back in it. Will the beeping eventually stop or will the car eventually turn off?

3. How close do I have to be for the smartkey to work? If I lock my doors and start walking away could someone open one of my doors using my Smartkey while I am still in range?

[pillpusher84]

Originally Posted by triz

1. If I am driving down the road and throw the smart key out the window what happens. Will the car continue to run? It can't kill the engine, can it?

No. - It will display "Key Not Detected" & beep three times. Your car will continue to run properly, until you press the start button. Once you press the button, you will be able to turn the car off & won't be able to start it again without the key.

Originally Posted by triz

2. If I start the car and get out carrying the smart key will my car eventually shut off? I parked in the fire lane the other day and it started beeping so i threw the key back in it. Will the beeping eventually stop or will the car eventually turn off?

No - It will continue running until you press the off button. As for the beeping - it will beep three or four times & then stop - this is to alert you that you have left the vehicle with the key & it is still running. (Just a reminder system) - I do it all the time, it's fine

Originally Posted by triz

3. How close do I have to be for the smartkey to work? If I lock my doors and start walking away could someone open one of my doors using my Smartkey while I am still in range?

The smart key work within 3-5 feet of the vehicle. Once you are a few feet away from the vehicle, it will not work. If I, the driver have the smart key & stand next to the driver's door without actually touching the handle to unlock the vehicle, & my passenger, who does NOT have a key tries to enter the vehicle on the front passenger side, they will not be able to enter - This goes to show that the smart key has to be in VERY close proximity, so it is very doubtful that someone will be able to enter your locked vehicle as you walk away, because you would be close enough to 1. see the person trying to get in, 2. hear the beep of the car unlocking!

[ptbr45]

Originally Posted by BadChicken

I think one thing they could have done to improve the system is when you get in the car, if you held the remote up to the start button it would override the system and not kill the car. That way it would still work like the aftermarket system and shut the car off if the brake is pressed. I'm not a big fan of having the car shut off when the doors are unlocked. Just my 2 cents

I have an 07 XLE with the smart key and remote start. I understand and appreciate Toyota's need to limit their liability on the remote start. However, it would be nice to be able to find a way to get into the car without it killing the engine.

One other thing I thought I was going to be very disappointed in was the range of the remote start but I park my car in the back of my work parking lot and have only minimal problems getting my car to start. Other people with aftermarket remote start (with a much better range than "81 feet") have similar problems closer to the building than I park.

All in all I am happy I got the factory remote start. I enjoy it so much I bought my wifey one for Christmas for her truck!

[tzeshan]

Originally Posted by ptbr45

I have an 07 XLE with the smart key and remote start. I understand and appreciate Toyota's need to limit their liability on the remote start. However, it would be nice to be able to find a way to get into the car without it killing the engine.

One other thing I thought I was going to be very disappointed in was the range of the remote start but I park my car in the back of my work parking lot and have only minimal problems getting my car to start. Other people with aftermarket remote start (with a much better range than "81 feet") have similar problems closer to the building than I park.

All in all I am happy I got the factory remote start. I enjoy it so much I bought my wifey one for Christmas for her truck!

This is actually a design fault. Toyota's logic is if you remote start a car then a thief can get in the car and drive off. However, if you have the smart key with you then it should recognize a legitimate owner is trying to open the door and not shutting down the engine.

This is similar to another design fault of the smart key. If you turn off the engine and leave the car forgetting to lock the car, it should know that there is no smart key near the car. After certain period of time, it should lock the door automatically. This actually will prevent thief fro entering your car.

[xdothedew]

Originally Posted by tzeshan

This is actually a design fault. Toyota's logic is if you remote start a car then a thief can get in the car and drive off. However, if you have the smart key with you then it should recognize a legitimate owner is trying to open the door and not shutting down the engine.

This is similar to another design fault of the smart key. If you turn off the engine and leave the car forgetting to lock the car, it should know that there is no smart key near the car. After certain period of time, it should lock the door automatically. This actually will prevent thief fro entering your car.

I agree with the first part. For the second part, the only drawback that I find here is that there might be passengers in the car. So if the door locks and arms automatically when the person holding the smartkey leaves, it will set off the alarm when the passenger opens the door after a certain time. Of course, the person could run and retrieve the smartkey, but it would be a hassle. The only thing I could think of to minimize this is to set the delay to a couple of hours or something.

Now it would be really neat if the car can detect no passengers at all, such as if any of the seats have a certain weight applied to it and not an object.