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Old 11-27-2006, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 Gen6 SE springs vs TRD springs

Hi
I have 07 LE V6 and I want firmer ride than now, especially too far travel suspension after bump,
I understand SE springs is firmer than TRD springs, If I am not wrong,
Better to put SE springs on My LE V6 ? also Is it able to install?
or any other suggestions?
and what make best for better handling? like say change strut bar or real bar ?
Please help me on this matter
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Well.

I put the TRD Springs on my car, and no longer cringe every time I have to go around a corner at anything but a crawling pace. The ride is about 80-90% firmer than the stock SE Springs. at 199+ tax from Toyota of Dallas, I think they're worth every penny (and the 4-5 hours I spent installing them, there was beer involved, it was a slow process hehehe)
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi
I have 07 LE V6 and I want firmer ride than now, especially too far travel suspension after bump,
I understand SE springs is firmer than TRD springs, If I am not wrong,
Better to put SE springs on My LE V6 ? also Is it able to install?
or any other suggestions?
and what make best for better handling? like say change strut bar or real bar ?
Please help me on this matter
Thanks
SE and LE are the same springs. the struts are different, SE has a rebound spring so it feels stiffer.

change your springs to TRD and get perf tires, and enjoy.
I did it myself. not har but need time.
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SE and LE are the same springs. the struts are different, SE has a rebound spring so it feels stiffer.

change your springs to TRD and get perf tires, and enjoy.
I did it myself. not har but need time.
There are no performance tires (that I've been able to find) for the stock size, so that really means, get 18's, and then performance tires.
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There are no performance tires (that I've been able to find) for the stock size, so that really means, get 18's, and then performance tires.
Huh??? What about the Goodyear Eagle GS-D, 215/55ZR-17?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=S


According to Toyota (and every other source) the SE has sport tuned springs and struts compared to the other trims.
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Huh??? What about the Goodyear Eagle GS-D, 215/55ZR-17?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=S


According to Toyota (and every other source) the SE has sport tuned springs and struts compared to the other trims.
Funny thing, I've spent litterally hours on that website, looking at both tires and wheels for the camry, as well as the wrx and mazdaspeed, and you know what? I've never seen that tire.


However, given their ridiculous price, poor ratings from ppl who have them, and atrocious treadwear rating (180), I would never recommend those tires to anyone.

save your pennies, get some 18's, get one of a thousand different 225/45/18's or 235/40/18s for half the price or less of those tires, and have much better performance.
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There are no performance tires (that I've been able to find) for the stock size, so that really means, get 18's, and then performance tires.
You do know that you don't neccesarily have to get 215/55/17 tires to fit on your SE wheels right?
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My thoughts are, if you are looking for a true ZR perfo tire, tread life is not part of the equation because you will eat them up. Although, comparing one to another will provide some insight into how they may hold up under similar circumstance.

I purposely got the all-season tires on my SE b/c I don't plan on tracking the car and wanted something that would stay on the car year 'round and last a little bit.

Now 6 years ago this car would have already had springs, 19" shoes and some Pzero's on her. Of course, if I had the money I have now in my life situation 6 years ago I would be driving an AMG E55 or a Cayman S, not a Camry
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My thoughts are, if you are looking for a true ZR perfo tire, tread life is not part of the equation because you will eat them up. Although, comparing one to another will provide some insight into how they may hold up under similar circumstance.

I purposely got the all-season tires on my SE b/c I don't plan on tracking the car and wanted something that would stay on the car year 'round and last a little bit.

Now 6 years ago this car would have already had springs, 19" shoes and some Pzero's on her. Of course, if I had the money I have now in my life situation 6 years ago I would be driving an AMG E55 or a Cayman S, not a Camry

I agree totally. But to me there is a big difference between buying performance tires that last around 20-30K miles, and buying 'performance tires' (which still have huge wobbly sidewalls) that last 15k miles at most. When comparing to the 50-80K mile stockers.


And yes, you can change sizes, but not if you want to keep your speedo/odo working right. If you go to a smaller sidewall, your gearing will be changed, and your odo will rack up miles faster than you're really driving it. not to mention your speedometer will be completely unreliable.
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I agree totally. But to me there is a big difference between buying performance tires that last around 20-30K miles, and buying 'performance tires' (which still have huge wobbly sidewalls) that last 15k miles at most. When comparing to the 50-80K mile stockers.


And yes, you can change sizes, but not if you want to keep your speedo/odo working right. If you go to a smaller sidewall, your gearing will be changed, and your odo will rack up miles faster than you're really driving it. not to mention your speedometer will be completely unreliable.
You can go with a 225/50/17 and only suffer 1.75% diameter difference showing your speedo 1.783% too fast. If your actual speed is 60mph, your speedo will show 61mph.

Besides, aren't you going to get 18" wheels anyway? If so, your overall diameter would still change nonetheless.
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Well.

I put the TRD Springs on my car, and no longer cringe every time I have to go around a corner at anything but a crawling pace. The ride is about 80-90% firmer than the stock SE Springs. at 199+ tax from Toyota of Dallas, I think they're worth every penny (and the 4-5 hours I spent installing them, there was beer involved, it was a slow process hehehe)
thanks for info

I may want to go trd springs
However trd springs will be good on LE V6 strut ?
I understand If strut is not firm will be bouncing a lot after bump, is that right?
and how much did you pay everything?springs +labor+etc?
Thanks

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SE and LE are the same springs. the struts are different, SE has a rebound spring so it feels stiffer.

change your springs to TRD and get perf tires, and enjoy.
I did it myself. not har but need time.

BS! The SE has a different part number for both front and back springs.
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thanks for info

I may want to go trd springs
However trd springs will be good on LE V6 strut ?
I understand If strut is not firm will be bouncing a lot after bump, is that wright?
and how much did you pay everything?springs +labor+etc?
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I paid 216 after tax and uhh... yeah thats it.

I installed them at my friend's house in his driveway.

Toyota of Dallas quoted me 600+ on labor. I kind of told them to go f*** themselves.

There are shops that can do it cheaper I'm sure, and your milage with the local stealership will vary of course.
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Question need further info.

Without creating a new thread much like some other people are doing. I'll just resurrect this thread.

On 2010 camry, What is the toyota part number for both OEM front and rear SE struts? and where can I get it besides dealership?

As well, would SE struts and aftermarket spring further drop down the car than just swapping the aftermarket spring?

The reason why I asked is because when I asked my dealer this question. They like to know why people inquire struts on a brand new model, and as soon as I informed that I want a stiffer ride, the parts person indicated to me that toyota would void the warranty if I replace my LE struts with a SE struts, and refuse to give me a price and a part number. So please help.

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Without creating a new thread much like some other people are doing. I'll just resurrect this thread.
I applaud you for searching and resurrecting an old thread whether it be 1 day old or 5 years old.

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On 2010 camry, What is the toyota part number for both OEM front and rear SE struts? and where can I get it besides dealership?

As well, would SE struts and aftermarket spring further drop down the car than just swapping the aftermarket spring?
If you're looking for OEM struts, dealerships/online dealerships would be the only place.

Dont know what the part # is.

Dropping the car depends on springs you purchased and what you're referring to. There are springs that drop the front and rear. I havent heard too many purchasing aftermarket springs with OEM height. Maybe someone who has dropped their car has stock SE springs they want to sell to you if you're looking for OEM height.

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The reason why I asked is because when I asked my dealer this question. They like to know why people inquire struts on a brand new model, and as soon as I informed that I want a stiffer ride, the parts person indicated to me that toyota would void the warranty if I replace my LE struts with a SE struts, and refuse to give me a price and a part number. So please help.

Thank you
If you want a stiffer ride, people would tell you to get coilovers. It also allows you to adjust your height. I'm not familiar with the springs and coilovers department so I'll let those more familiar give you more information.

I believe if you replace the springs, it would be stiffer than the LE. Leave the struts. You'll be spending money for something you probably dont need.
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