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Old 04-27-2007, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 5,000 Mile Service

Took my car into the dealer for an oil change and tire rotation (5,000 miles). They also suggested the following:
  • Multi-point vehicle inspection
  • Check & top-off fluids (as needed)
  • Lube chassis (if applicable)
  • Adjust tire pressure
  • Replace drain-plug gasket
  • Clean & adjust rear drum brakes (I don't even have drum brakes)
All for $45.

So I'm wondering if any of this is necessary? (Tire Pressure is fine :] )

And what exactly do they do they mean by Lube Chassis?

(And yes I did a search. Couldn't find anything.)
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I think it's a waste of $45...I never perform the dealer suggested maintenance. I just follow the manufacturer recommended services that are in the manual.

As for the tire pressure $0.25 at any gas station will usually solve that issue
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It is not neccessary to do all of that, But $45 is a good price for it, especially at the dealer. Lube Chassis would be to grease ball-joints, control arm bushings etc, however they are not serviceable on the Gen6.
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When I had a 2002 CRV the local dealer actually had a service point that stated "change the distributor cap and rotor" on a 2002 CRV with computer controlled ignition.

Told him if he could show me were the distributor cap was on my CRV I would sign up.

I got a sheepish look and he changed the subject...
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Originally Posted by Mistabullet
Took my car into the dealer for an oil change and tire rotation (5,000 miles). They also suggested the following:
  • Multi-point vehicle inspection
  • Check & top-off fluids (as needed)
  • Lube chassis (if applicable)
  • Adjust tire pressure
  • Replace drain-plug gasket
  • Clean & adjust rear drum brakes (I don't even have drum brakes)
All for $45.

So I'm wondering if any of this is necessary? (Tire Pressure is fine :] )

And what exactly do they do they mean by Lube Chassis?

(And yes I did a search. Couldn't find anything.)
It means that your dealer is a dishonest bucket of scum. I'd take that list to the owner, and go kick him right between the legs, which is what he deserves.
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up here in NYC at the dealership on Staten Island, they charge $25.00 for the oil change. that price is a little high, but if they do the oil change, rotate the tires, give you the oil filter, etc. then it is not a bad price. with that mileage that is all the car needs. your car is still brand new dude.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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  • Quote:
    • Multi-point vehicle inspection
    • Check & top-off fluids (as needed)
    • Lube chassis (if applicable)
    • Adjust tire pressure
    • Replace drain-plug gasket
    • Clean & adjust rear drum brakes (I don't even have drum brakes)
    All for $45.
Well i'm with the others. Here's why its a waste of $45. It is a minor service of stuff you can do yourself for free. Moreover, it is obviously, an attempt to find more services to sell you after that. And if you were flush, you wouldn't be reading this - so i'll go on.

"Multi pt inspection" means looking for belts, hoses and brake linings that need changing. "Check and top off fluids' is well, nothing you cant do yourself, if anything is low that might mean something needs servicing. And that they will then try to sell you too. Here's the problematic part - maybe they will do the work and maybe they won't. Proof?

"Lube chassis" is a complete fiction, theres nothing on the Camry with a grease fitting. (

"Clean and adjust rear brakes": Neither drum nor disc ought to EVER require adjusting. Disc brake pads cannot be adjusted. Nor is there any need to do so. They depend on rotor run-out to keep them away from the rotor and when it works, it works. If it doesn't, time to change the calipers. (An easy job and one that won't be required for a long long time - i'd give toyota OEM 150-200 k or more.)
And if rear drum brakes need adjusting by hand, something is broken or worn out. Same goes for the parking brake on the 4-wheel disc.
All ditto ought to need is a good cleaning when the rear brakes are done. Unless you hit the e-brake alot while the car is moving for some reason. In which case, i have nothing to add.

Summary: Nah save your money, i could do all this stuff for you in about 1 hr if that and it wouldnt cost a dime. Why pay them to find stuff wrong with your car (or maybe even create it if they are shady?)

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Well I just picked my car up from the dealership.

Decided to keep the $45 and put it in the gas tank.

Unfortunately they didn't rotate my tires (I payed for this) so now I've lost all respect and from now on I'm going to change the oil myself.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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When I took my car in to the same dealer as I purchased, back in December for the "5k" service, They said everything was complimentary, including the Oil Change. That was a pleasant surprise!!!
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"Clean and adjust rear brakes" - neither drum nor disc ought to require adjusting, disc brakes cant be adjusted and if rear drum brakes need adjusting by hand, something is broken or worn out.
The 07 Camry does in fact have rear-drum brakes, except it's the parking brake that's inside of the rotor hub, like a drum brake.

FWIW - I know this "adjustment" seems odd, but the p-brake is actuated by a cable and cables stretch... Not a big deal if not done, but not a bad idea in the first 10K to make sure any slack is taken up.

The rear discs otherwise need no adjustment.
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My Interval

Most service packages is just visually inspecting this or that. Any decent place would check tire pressure while doing a rotation. I manage the care of 6 cars in my immediate family.

Oil change (regular oil, not synthetic) every 5k, rotation and balance every 5k, check alignment every 10k, change air filter every 15k, engine coolant flush every 30k, automatic tranmission fluid/differential fluid every 30k, brake fluid flush every 30k, power steering fluid flush every 60k, tune up every 60k, fuel filter/pcv valve every 60k, timing belt/water pump/thermostat every 90k.

Some of the things like rotate and balance and alignment I have packages for so they're free. Rotation and balance package/road hazard/etc was $20 per tire when I first got them and pays for itself, 5 year unlimited alignments was $185 (which is a great deal) but luckily I had a 50% off coupon so 5 years unlimted was $90 something.

A rear brake adjustment should cost no more than $30, if you go to a dealer expect to pay 2-3x as much as an independent store or even a chain store. I like Merchants/Tire Kingdom/NTB.

It might be easier to create a spreadsheet like I have for all the cars so it's easy to see what needs to be done.

p.s. charging to change the crush gasket (drain plug gasket) is nonsense. The part costs less than $1 and is easily replaced when doing the oil change. It should be part of the oil change. Consider this a warning for your own eyes and get service elsewhere.

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p.s. charging to change the crush gasket (drain plug gasket) is nonsense. The part costs less than $1 and is easily replaced when doing the oil change. It should be part of the oil change. Consider this a warning for your own eyes and get service elsewhere.
My thoughts exactly
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up here in NYC at the dealership on Staten Island, they charge $25.00 for the oil change. that price is a little high, but if they do the oil change, rotate the tires, give you the oil filter, etc. then it is not a bad price. with that mileage that is all the car needs. your car is still brand new dude.
Oil change at GO Toyota & Scion here in Colorado is $31.95 plus tax and waste fees, usually around $35. We have a great service advisor that only charges us $14.00 for it though. Just got my 5,000 mile service done and it was $95. Don't really care about the price as money isn't an issue, if I really cared I'd do it myself.
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p.s. charging to change the crush gasket (drain plug gasket) is nonsense. The part costs less than $1 and is easily replaced when doing the oil change. It should be part of the oil change. Consider this a warning for your own eyes and get service elsewhere.

I agree- that is complete B.S. When you buy a toyota filter for the four banger- it comes with that gasket in the box...

I just bought 4 filters for my hybrid, and each box had a gasket in it.

Any dealer that charges to do this is just padding the bottom line. And they can't use the excuse that it's extra labor- they have to take the old gasket and plug out to change the oil.
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5K service

Well, I took mine in today for the 5k and all of that ^ was included with the oil+rotation. Total cost was $78.95.
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