'07 SE V6 ... rev limiter question

[watchcrazy]

Probably a general question, but I am sure there is a lot of different opinions on this one.

So does hitting the rev limiter cause any damage?

I'm just guessing that it isn't doing any damage, that the point of the rev limiter is so you don't do any damage

[geoff5093]

Correct me if im wrong, but in the auto versions of the Camry, it shifts near the redline, not the actual rev limiter.

And high revving will cause more engine wear, but it wont destroy your engine or anything. They wouldnt allow the car to do something that would cause severe damage to the engine or trans.

[PhatRoyale]

It seems you know the answer to your own question, no it should not do any damage.

Prolonged high rpm runs will however, cause more stress on the drivetrain and possibly increased wear on critical engine parts.

[Toyota_Nate]

I was manually shifting tonight, running against my friends 330i....forgot to shift and when it redlined it did not shift, the engine timing was retarded and i lost all power. I'm just leaving it in drive from here on out. At the next light, I pulled ahead 3 car lengths by 80...lol!

[Epsilon]

^^ Since you were racing from a dig, you could of also put it in S mode in 4th gear and it will shift all the way to 4th gear for you.

[rsjyss]

Originally Posted by Toyota_Nate

I was manually shifting tonight, running against my friends 330i....forgot to shift and when it redlined it did not shift, the engine timing was retarded and i lost all power. I'm just leaving it in drive from here on out. At the next light, I pulled ahead 3 car lengths by 80...lol!

It's a little slow to shift... I've hit the limiter a few times in the past... no biggie as it's a soft limiter and causes no damage.

To get it right I'm having to shift 400 or so before the actual shift point that I'm intending.

[Yazovets]

The tranny in the Camry is busted.

If I'm shifting manually it actually won't shift when you get to the redline.

Like if you're firing in 1st gear, it will get to the redline and then make stupid revving noises. And then it makes the car jerk a little, too.

The tranny is pretty dumb in the Camry. Also I've noticed that if you choose to manually downshift, you can only do it if the higher gear will be at like 3000rpm. I understand the concept of rev-matching (I've driven manuals too), but the Camry could defintely allow downshifts earlier.

The tranny in our Benz ML500 is beautiful in contrast. Well it's all a "gear-limiter" tranny rather than really going in the gear you really want. But if you're in 1st or whatever and you reach the redline, it shifts by itself. Also it allows for downshifts at higher RPMs.

But I think one of the best trannies I've used was the 5-speed Steptronic in our old BMW X5 4.4i. The reason is because that was a real manumatic tranny. It really stayed in the gear you wanted. So I could actually start from 0 in 2nd or even 3rd gear. And if I was in like 3rd gear doing just 10km/h, and floor it, it wouldn't downshift, but would really give gas in the existing gear without over-riding me. That was a TRUE tranny. Shifted very fast, too.

[Daffunda]

Leaving it in tiptronic mode and having the transmission shift for you for upshift is pretty stupid. That totally defeats the purpose of the tiptronic mode.

[Yazovets]

Originally Posted by Daffunda

Leaving it in tiptronic mode and having the transmission shift for you for upshift is pretty stupid. That totally defeats the purpose of the tiptronic mode.

No it doesn't. You may want to keep on a certain gear, but not launch immediately. If you left in auto-mode then it would shift up and then when you needed the power you'd need to wait for it to downshift several times.

Say you left it in 1st and intended to launch with a little delay. Like you want to go over some uneven road and then mash the gas in order to avoid spinning the wheels. Then you'd leave it in 1st.

[Epsilon]

Volkswagen DSG (Direct Gear Shiftbox) hands down.

"Volkswagen’s Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG) is the world’s first dual-clutch automated manual gearbox in a production car. This provides the driver the ease-of-drive of a car equipped with an automatic , but the efficiency and flexibility of a manual transmission.

It’s like a far more advanced big brother of automated manual like the one found in the Proton Savvy AMT. Something like BMW’s SMG, but Volkswagen’s DSG was the first to have dual clutches. Volkswagen’s DSGtransmission also has a triptronic function, allowing gears to be manually selected as well as an automatic mode.
A conventional manual has a human foot-operated single clutch. A DSG transmission has two clutches, one for the even gears and one for the odd gears plus the reverse gear. One clutch is in gear, while the other pre-selects the next gear. This allows really fast shifts, no more than three to four hundredths of a second. For example, if the car is in third gear, the other clutch already has fourth gear selected but is not active. As soon as the RPM reaches the ideal shift point for the car’s torque curve, the gearbox shifts into fourth gear almost instantly.
Here’s a video with a drag race comparison between a Volkswagen GTI 6-speed manual and a Volkswagen Golf GTI equipped with a 5-speed DSG gearbox. The Volkswagen Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox is also pitched against other cars with conventional gearboxes but with better power to weight ratio than the Volkswagen Golf GTI. You’ll be able to see how the DSG fares."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

[360glitch]

Originally Posted by Epsilon

Volkswagen DSG (Direct Gear Shiftbox) hands down.

"Volkswagen’s Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG) is the world’s first dual-clutch automated manual gearbox in a production car. This provides the driver the ease-of-drive of a car equipped with an automatic , but the efficiency and flexibility of a manual transmission.

It’s like a far more advanced big brother of automated manual like the one found in the Proton Savvy AMT. Something like BMW’s SMG, but Volkswagen’s DSG was the first to have dual clutches. Volkswagen’s DSGtransmission also has a triptronic function, allowing gears to be manually selected as well as an automatic mode.
A conventional manual has a human foot-operated single clutch. A DSG transmission has two clutches, one for the even gears and one for the odd gears plus the reverse gear. One clutch is in gear, while the other pre-selects the next gear. This allows really fast shifts, no more than three to four hundredths of a second. For example, if the car is in third gear, the other clutch already has fourth gear selected but is not active. As soon as the RPM reaches the ideal shift point for the car’s torque curve, the gearbox shifts into fourth gear almost instantly.
Here’s a video with a drag race comparison between a Volkswagen GTI 6-speed manual and a Volkswagen Golf GTI equipped with a 5-speed DSG gearbox. The Volkswagen Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox is also pitched against other cars with conventional gearboxes but with better power to weight ratio than the Volkswagen Golf GTI. You’ll be able to see how the DSG fares."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

That's pretty impressive.

[Epsilon]

You're darn right it is!

[watchcrazy]

Originally Posted by Epsilon

Volkswagen DSG (Direct Gear Shiftbox) hands down.

"Volkswagen’s Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG) is the world’s first dual-clutch automated manual gearbox in a production car. This provides the driver the ease-of-drive of a car equipped with an automatic , but the efficiency and flexibility of a manual transmission.

It’s like a far more advanced big brother of automated manual like the one found in the Proton Savvy AMT. Something like BMW’s SMG, but Volkswagen’s DSG was the first to have dual clutches. Volkswagen’s DSGtransmission also has a triptronic function, allowing gears to be manually selected as well as an automatic mode.
A conventional manual has a human foot-operated single clutch. A DSG transmission has two clutches, one for the even gears and one for the odd gears plus the reverse gear. One clutch is in gear, while the other pre-selects the next gear. This allows really fast shifts, no more than three to four hundredths of a second. For example, if the car is in third gear, the other clutch already has fourth gear selected but is not active. As soon as the RPM reaches the ideal shift point for the car’s torque curve, the gearbox shifts into fourth gear almost instantly.
Here’s a video with a drag race comparison between a Volkswagen GTI 6-speed manual and a Volkswagen Golf GTI equipped with a 5-speed DSG gearbox. The Volkswagen Golf GTI with the DSG gearbox is also pitched against other cars with conventional gearboxes but with better power to weight ratio than the Volkswagen Golf GTI. You’ll be able to see how the DSG fares."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmMNRQ1GJ3o

Oh yeah, that is impressive. Just wish there was a way to keep the VWs out of the dealership with all the problems. I had an '06 Passat, loved it up to about 30k miles, then it started just having problem, after problem, after problem, after problem. The DSG is really cool, I have driven a couple of them, but still too many problems with the car for me. Good thing this is a Toyota board, I'd get killed with this comment in a different Vortex

One thing that I really hated about the Passat, was everyone calling the damn thing a Jetta. Just imagine if everyone said, hey nice Yaris to you when you drove up in your Camry. both good cars, but I think you get my point

[xpeed]

Camrys weren't built for racing.

[Epsilon]

^^ Neither was the Honda Odyssey, but RJ DeVera built his mom's minivan to hit 12's all day at the drag strip.