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Old 06-03-2007, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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07 V6 brakes?

does anyone know of a good replacement/upgrade set? well yeah they stop ok but the first time i was going a little fast and i had to come to a stop over a reasonable distance and they got hot and i almost ran into a minivan yesterday morning i was coming home from work and i was curious how good my emergency brakes are... i was by myself and i was going 40 so i pushed in the pedal and it slowed me down alittle and i heard a loud brake sqeek so i released them and tried it again and they slowed me down less than the first time and then they got too hot and didnt do nothing except well nothing yes i drive fast sometimes but not around turns or make quick stops but having 4 wheel disc brakes doesnt feel so safe anymore. are the oem pads that our cars come with ceramic? so anybody have this happen also?
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The camry 60-0 braking is rated decent compared other cars out there. But with any stock brakes after 3-4 of those types of stops in a row, they will fade (distance gets longer).

IMHO if you are braking that hard all the time, I'd consider changing your driving habits vs. getting better brakes. Even with better brakes your bound to get into an accident, cause you can't predict how slow or fast others are going to stop. And if 10-15 ft (less than one car length) with performance brakes are going to make the difference then.....

OEM pads aren't ceramic....

Honestly I never had this happen to me cause I barely use 40% of my braking ability due to my driving habits. I bet your GAS mileage is horrible and then we'll see a post from you saying "How come this thing get's terrbile mileage."
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I'd suggest finding the cheap soft pads and plan on going through a bunch of them. They will tend to grab better than a hard pad. Conversely, drive more conservatively and save the money.
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First off, using the floor brake when moving is a horrible idea. It's not like the e-brake where you can hank it up and lock your rear wheels.

By doing that when moving, you probably either stretched the wire or did something else, which will cause them to lose alot of their braking power.

They are designed as a parking brake, not an emergency brake.
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Yea, it's not an 'emergency brake' it is a PARKING brake. It was NOT designed to bring your car to a complete stop from 40 mph, it is designed to be engaged when parking on a steep slope.

Step 1: Come to a complete stop on a slope.
Step 2: Engage the parking brake.
Step 3: Shift the transmission into park.
Step 4: Turn off the car and get out.
Step 5: Congratulations, you have correctly used the PARKING brake.

The parking brake is designed to protect the transmission from a sudden roll-back after shifting into park. I would not be surprised if you just trashed it completely.
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FYI people

An emergency brake is a separate brake system in a vehicle for use in case of failure of the regular (hydraulic or air) brakes and commonly used as a parking brake in automobiles. Also called hand brake, many people shorten emergency and call the devices e-brakes.

The terms parking brake and emergency brake are used interchangeably in the automotive world to refer to a purely mechanical brake system which can be actuated in the event of hydraulic failure, or used to secure a car when the motor is off and the car is parked. The term used depends on the scenario. In an emergency situation, the emergency or e-brake can be used to stop a car safely. In daily use, the parking brake is used as a safety measure to prevent runaways. Like the rest of the brake system, the parking brake should be regularly inspected to ensure that it is performing properly.
The parking brake consists of a series of steel cables which run from the rear brakes to a pedal or lever by the seat of the driver. When the driver activates the parking brake, the cables pull taut, bringing the brake pads into contact with the surface of the brake and stopping the car, or preventing it from moving. Because the cables are attached to a ratcheting lever or pedal, when the driver removes the hand or foot used to activate the parking brake, the brake will still hold. In order to remove the brake, the driver must take another action, such as pressing a button and lowering the lever.
Although the parking brake is attached to the regular brakes of the car, it is independent of the hydraulic braking system connected to the brake pedal. In an emergency situation where the hydraulic brakes fail, the driver can still stop the car using the emergency brake. It is recommended that a driver downshift before applying the emergency brake, as this will slow the car significantly, and reduce the grabbing feeling that accompanies high speed use of the emergency brake. In addition to being more comfortable for driver and passengers, this is also a safety measure, as if the car is traveling at a high rate of speed, it can fishtail or spin out when the emergency brake is applied.
When parking a car, it is important to set the parking brake, so that if the car slips into gear, it will not roll. This applies to vehicles with automatic transmissions as well. In addition, drivers who are parking on a hill facing downhill should turn their wheels toward the curb or side of the road, so that if the car slips into gear and the brake slips, the car will roll off the road, rather than into it. When facing uphill with a curb present, the wheels should face into the street, so that the car will roll back slightly and bump into the curb if it rolls. If there is not a curb, the wheels should face towards the side of the road.
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El Tano, maybe it's just the cars that i've been in, but in all of them it seems like hand brakes work much better then floor brakes.

I can pull up the hand brake on pretty much any car and have the rear wheels lock up, while in other cars I use the floor brake and it just slows it down.
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I was taught in driving school and i did a winter driving course...that the "e-brake" was good if you lost your brakes completely...you can hold the button in and pump the handle up and down..to bring your car to a complete and safe stop...I've never had to use this or ever have tried it, but i assume they teach it for a reason...
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On the Gen 6 the only Camry that has a hand brake is the i4 5-speed manual tranny. All others have a floor brake.

I've never been in a Gen 5 Camry... is this true for those vehicles as well?
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On the Gen 6 the only Camry that has a hand brake is the i4 5-speed manual tranny. All others have a floor brake.

I've never been in a Gen 5 Camry... is this true for those vehicles as well?
mine's an auto V6 with hand brake...all my cars have had the handbrake except my Grand Prix..it had the floor brake.
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[quote=BuckeyeSE]On the Gen 6 the only Camry that has a hand brake is the i4 5-speed manual tranny. All others have a floor brake.


thank you. and to all you idiots that try to tell me its not a emergency brake and tried to tell me how to use the floor brake and re-read my first post to see why i asked this question. all i asked is if somebody knew of a brake upgrade because i thought these brakes could hold up to more braking before they get to hot to grip but no all i get is replys saying "dont drive to fast" "your milage probally sucks" if i wanted people bitching about the way i drive then i would of asked my mother in law . honestly i love this forum because some of the useful information somebody like me could use but the people (well most of them) do nothing but BITCH when somebody has a question about racing,brake upgrades,i cant think of anything else right now but you guys get the point. dont worry guys or ladies ill try not to post or reply to topics because i forget everybody drives like they are seniors to conserve gas and drives 5mph below the speedlimit and come to complete stops at stop signs and wait 3 seconds and give 1 car lenght for every 10mph from the car in front of you when driving except for me im sure the people at toyota that created the 268hp 3.5L engine in my camry never thought people would actually drive it fast and not think about gas milage and correct me if im wrong but doesnt the SE (SPORT!)07 V6 camry have the SAME braking system as my LE V6. you guys suck (well most of you!). so how are you doing pillpusher84 long time no hear? i hope this make the people that do nothing but bitch very upset. if not i will probally cry.

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Well, if you thought comments to your first question were harsh, just see how much help you get from anyone after giving us all a community finger....
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El Tano, maybe it's just the cars that i've been in, but in all of them it seems like hand brakes work much better then floor brakes.

I can pull up the hand brake on pretty much any car and have the rear wheels lock up, while in other cars I use the floor brake and it just slows it down.
I sometimes slam the foot ebrake for fun and it always locks up the rear wheels. Works on both wet and dry.

@lalojames: Don't mind the harsh posts. You'll find that people get sensitive on here from time to time . If you can sift through the nonsense you'll find some helpful opinions on here as well as a lot of valuable information. There's a huge variety of people on these boards. Some might find slamming your ebrake at 50km/h will destroy your car, others won't. It's nothing to get too worked up about .

Here's two auctions that popped up on ebay recently that claim to be upgrades for the brakes. I have no idea how good or reputable these brands are...(good luck in your search).


http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...5711&rd=1&rd=1







http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...0733&rd=1&rd=1
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I'd suggest finding the cheap soft pads and plan on going through a bunch of them. They will tend to grab better than a hard pad. Conversely, drive more conservatively and save the money.
Its the other way around, performance pads (which brakes better) are generally ceramic, semi-metallic, metallic etc and they are hard compounds. Once the optimum temperature is reached for the pads they do a good job of braking and dealing with brake fade.
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thank you. and to all you idiots that try to tell me its not a emergency brake and tried to tell me how to use the floor brake and re-read my first post to see why i asked this question. all i asked is if somebody knew of a brake upgrade because i thought these brakes could hold up to more braking before they get to hot to grip but no all i get is replys saying "dont drive to fast" "your milage probally sucks" if i wanted people bitching about the way i drive then i would of asked my mother in law . honestly i love this forum because some of the useful information somebody like me could use but the people (well most of them) do nothing but BITCH when somebody has a question about racing,brake upgrades,i cant think of anything else right now but you guys get the point. dont worry guys or ladies ill try not to post or reply to topics because i forget everybody drives like they are seniors to conserve gas and drives 5mph below the speedlimit and come to complete stops at stop signs and wait 3 seconds and give 1 car lenght for every 10mph from the car in front of you when driving except for me im sure the people at toyota that created the 268hp 3.5L engine in my camry never thought people would actually drive it fast and not think about gas milage and correct me if im wrong but doesnt the SE (SPORT!)07 V6 camry have the SAME braking system as my LE V6. you guys suck (well most of you!). so how are you doing pillpusher84 long time no hear? i hope this make the people that do nothing but bitch very upset. if not i will probally cry.
I was driving home tonight with lots of traffic on the highway.... I was flooring it trying to weave in and out of traffic..... I didn't have enough power to get in front of this minivan with probably kids in it. I almost smashed into it when trying to change lanes. Does anyone know of any CAMS, PORTED HEADS or PERFORMANCE Mods to help me with this issue?

Re-read what you posted... about smashing into a mini van etc. because you drive fast and the brakes fade. It's as stupid as the $hit I posted above. I really thought hard in writing the above... damn, yours came easy huh?

Since you got your panties in a bunch and calling people names here... I figured YOU figured out I was calling you an IDIOT in my original reply to you. Obviously the shoe fit and so does the thong!

Been on boards long enough to recognize a PUM PUM behind a keyboard.
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