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Is there any point to having a dealer look at the transmission flare?
I'm getting my oil changed today and I told them about the transmission flare because last week it did it in the middle of rush hour traffic which scared me a bit. Do you think its worth having them look at it or am I just wasting my time?
I'm getting my oil changed today and I told them about the transmission flare because last week it did it in the middle of rush hour traffic which scared me a bit. Do you think its worth having them look at it or am I just wasting my time?
The transmission problem we have been discussing isn't something that just happens in the middle of rush hour traffic. You need to tell them about it. This is a new problem.
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The transmission problem we have been discussing isn't something that just happens in the middle of rush hour traffic. You need to tell them about it. This is a new problem.
no I think is the flare because I was at a standstill then when I tried to accelerate it hesitated quite a bit.
no I think is the flare because I was at a standstill then when I tried to accelerate it hesitated quite a bit.
Thats not the flare, what your talking about seems to be the I4 hesitation problem.
The flare happens (usually) on a cold start in between shifts, where the RPM's will shoot up anywhere from 100-1000RPM's, usually between 3rd and 4th gear.
I'm getting my oil changed today and I told them about the transmission flare because last week it did it in the middle of rush hour traffic which scared me a bit. Do you think its worth having them look at it or am I just wasting my time?
There are reports of flares between 2 and 3 on a warmed up car. Is this what you saw? Do you know if your car has the new tranny and the updated flash?
no I think is the flare because I was at a standstill then when I tried to accelerate it hesitated quite a bit.
This is video with sound of what the slip when shifting (flare) looks like.
Notice how when the tranny shifts, the RPM on the tach jumps, but the speedometer doesn't move. Like the tranny is "slipping".
Hesitation isn't the same thing.
Thats not the flare, what your talking about seems to be the I4 hesitation problem.
The flare happens (usually) on a cold start in between shifts, where the RPM's will shoot up anywhere from 100-1000RPM's, usually between 3rd and 4th gear.
ok that would make sense seeing as how I have an four cylinder, so will they take care of this problem because its kind of up setting because I asked them in the service department before I bought the car if they had any transmission issues and they said all the complaints were because people driving to hard and the VSC kicking in. And I don't think this is true because my mom's '04 Sienna has VSC and her car hasn't done anything remotely like this.
And I don't know if my car had any of those TSB applied to it, its a demo and I only had it for a month. Would those be on the Car Fax reptort? Because if they are on the Car Fax then, they weren't done to tthe car.
Last edited by CheeseHead91182; 06-11-2007 at 11:13 AM.
This is video with sound of what the slip when shifting (flare) looks like.
Notice how when the tranny shifts, the RPM on the tach jumps, but the speedometer doesn't move. Like the tranny is "slipping".
Hesitation isn't the same thing.
Would those be on the Car Fax report? Because if they are on the Car Fax then, they weren't done to tthe car.
Car Fax has information regarding accidents and body repairs, not mechanical updates. The dealer can run the VIN and tell what has or has not been done to it by a Toyota dealer. In the mean time, check the Yahoo group Toyotas_Only, and look at all the TSB's. Take it in, describe the problem, and ask them to check any bulletins they might have that address this issue. If you find one, print it out and have it with you for reference, but don't attempt to ram it down their collective throats.
Finally, and sorry if this sounds like something coming from NJerald, if you had read the threads related to the transmission flare you would know it has nothing at all to do with the 4 cylinder engine. There have been discussions of 4 cylinder hesitation, and it would be helpful to you if you review these discussions before visiting the dealer. You want all the info you can get because no matter how stupid and uninformed the service advisor appears to be, they actually aren't.
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2007 V6 Camry LE, Built TMMK 27 September 06
"People who think they know it all are particularly irritating to those of us who do."
Car Fax has information regarding accidents and body repairs, not mechanical updates. The dealer can run the VIN and tell what has or has not been done to it by a Toyota dealer. In the mean time, check the Yahoo group Toyotas_Only, and look at all the TSB's. Take it in, describe the problem, and ask them to check any bulletins they might have that address this issue. If you find one, print it out and have it with you for reference, but don't attempt to ram it down their collective throats.
Finally, and sorry if this sounds like something coming from NJerald, if you had read the threads related to the transmission flare you would know it has nothing at all to do with the 4 cylinder engine. There have been discussions of 4 cylinder hesitation, and it would be helpful to you if you review these discussions before visiting the dealer. You want all the info you can get because no matter how stupid and uninformed the service advisor appears to be, they actually aren't.
I had read the threads but I guess not well enough lol, anyway when I called them I told them the car was having trouble accelerating, I didn't use the world flare, so they should know what I'm talking about. I wish I had gotten more info first though, because my Dad is the one taking the car in, because I have to work and he is on vaction and the dealership I got the car from is like 30 min from house.
ok that would make sense seeing as how I have an four cylinder, so will they take care of this problem because its kind of up setting because I asked them in the service department before I bought the car if they had any transmission issues and they said all the complaints were because people driving to hard and the VSC kicking in. And I don't think this is true because my mom's '04 Sienna has VSC and her car hasn't done anything remotely like this.
And I don't know if my car had any of those TSB applied to it, its a demo and I only had it for a month. Would those be on the Car Fax reptort? Because if they are on the Car Fax then, they weren't done to tthe car.
Also the flare happens with the V6 6-spd tranny.
I've heard that some people brought their car in and they reflashed it, which fixed the problem.
Have you had any other issues with your updated transmission?
My flare issue was improved to the point it's almost a non-issue.
I have over 500 miles on the reflash.
It didn't flare until I changed to my new Borla High Performance Exhaust (a Toyota option)
It flared a few times right after I put it on, which tells me that firmware is part of the problem, because a sudden change in back pressure of my exhaust made a difference.
Now since then, I've had one 3-4th flare after an engine start. (it used to flare after EVERY engine start), and a couple of 100-150RPM flares 1st to 2nd when cold.
Being that this is the 4th version of TCU firmware, and after a reflash, it worked perfectly for a few hundred miles, tells me alot of the problem is still likely buggy firmware.
The drivability of this reflash is greatly improved, and I'm going to keep my eyes open for the next version.
One the subject of the Borla exhaust.
It's really kickass!
I notice a significant difference in mid to upper RPM power.
When I kick it down on the highway to pass, it really pushes me back in the seat more than it used to, and pulls strong all the way up to the next shift. (where before it used to kind of "run out of wind" in the upper RPMs)
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2007 Camry SE V6 Titanium Metallic, Produced 08/06 Kentucky, VIN# 4T1BK46K37U5189xx
Borla V6 High Performance Exhaust Toyota PN# 00016-32102
5/29/2007 TSB TC007-07 done - Didn't Fix Flare Problem
7/18/2007 Transaxle and Torque Converter replaced
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Is there any point to having a dealer look at the transmission flare?
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