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Old 06-29-2007, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spark plug replacement in '02 V6

I'm just about the replace the plugs in an '02 Camry V6. The service manual calls for removing the upper intake manifold. Is this necessary? Difficult? I'd welcome tips from anyone who's done this job.

Also, what kind of life are you getting from the poly-groove belts? They seem a little noisy at 75K. Typical?

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John,

I have a 03 v6. I didn't remove the intake manifold. However, be patient with the three plugs facing the firewall. Few scratches on the fore arms, but it can be done.

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Old 06-29-2007, 12:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Zeroleak. I will attempt that with a cold engine and lots of time tomorrow morning. I'd rather not have to remove the manifold if it can be avoided. I'll just keep at it, trying different wrench combinations until them come out. Thanks for your help!
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I'm just about the replace the plugs in an '02 Camry V6. The service manual calls for removing the upper intake manifold. Is this necessary? Difficult? I'd welcome tips from anyone who's done this job.

Also, what kind of life are you getting from the poly-groove belts? They seem a little noisy at 75K. Typical?

Thanks!

John
I have your car. I changed the plugs by myself but it was not an easy job. You can do it without removing the plenum and all of that but you will need an array of extensions, masking tape (to hold sockets on), and plenty of patience.

can see why people remove the plenum to get to the right bank but i guess its not impossible if you have the right tools.
Without removing plenum, I found The coil pack on # 4 has to be removed first, the pcv hose too. And there are two wires bolted to the plenum with a nut which are in the way and have to be removed. Then you can access the tough one, #5 plug behind the plenum. I accessed #4 and #5 from the passenger side, leaning on the fender which i covered with a towel first.

Harbor freight has a long long spark plug socket that is tailor made for this and it is $5. I found my sockets are either too long or too short even when used together. Its not fun but can be done.

Re the notorious #5 plug it took me about 30 minutes for this one plug. I used a regular foam insert spark plug socket, one small 3/8" extension and one wobble socket adaptor (which i could have gotten by without, but it made the extension just long enough).

And the most important tip: tape the sockets and extension together so they dont pull apart! I taped them together with duct tape and pulled on them to make sure they would not slip apart. Because the last thing i wanted to be doing is fishing for a spark plug socket back there where you can barely reach.

First i unclipped the wire from the coil, hope you have small hands like i do for this. Then i unscrewed the 10 mm bolt holding it onto the valve cover. I used a 1/4" socket wrench, a box wrench will work if you are very patient. I had to hugg the engine for this, i used my left hand to hold the socket wrench while i lay over the engine and looked through the gap by the plenum tubes and EGR. Then i stuck my wrench around back over the little bolt, and i could see the bolt and socket through the gap. Not dignified but effective lol
Undo the 10 mm bolt, when it gets loose grab it with your hand to do the last few turns so you dont drop it and lose it. Then twist the coil a little and it will pop up and out. Dont try to turn it at first, I pulled it straight out of its hole and then removed it plug side first.

Then I snaked the taped-together socket and extension round the back and slid it in the plug hole and over the plug. Then i reached behind with the socket wrench and pressed it on to the extension. The socket wrench should be shorter rather than longer, because if its too long you wont have much room to swing it.

Theres not much clearance to swing the socket wrench but there is enough, barely, but you will be going 2 or 3 wrench clicks at a time. Then when i was sure the spark plug was out i unclipped the socket wrench and pulled it out of the way. Then i pulled the sockets extensions and the plug up and out.
Antiseize on the new plug (i use anti seize on everything!) and it went in even easier than it came out. And i made sure to get it tight, its not easy to tell how tight you are getting it when you only have a couple socket clicks to feel it.
And then replace the coil - slide it in square end first and then stick its nose in the hole and drop it in. And then snake in the 10 mm bolt , for God's sake dont drop it - (if you do drop it borrow one from one of the front coils while you drive to the store for another bolt) - and the bolt surprisingly easy to line up with its hole. I turned it in by hand as far as possible and then used the 1/4" socket wrench with the 10mm socket to tighten it.

Rubber gloves anyone? My hands still hurt - from cuts from snaking them around in there. A clean engine to work on is desirable too - but i saved a lotta money doing this and thats what counts.
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This is excellent!

Thanks so much for your thoughtful and detailed description of the process you followed. You make no mention of the plug on the left. Did you access that from the left side? I assume that it was not as difficult as the other two. I did not do this Saturday, as I has other projects (oil, ATF, coolant, brake fluid, belts) on the car and was tired by the time I would have gotten to this. I want to do it when I'm fresh. I will also take your advice and clean the engine first. The car has 70K on it and runs flawlessly, so it's not terribly urgent, but I'd like to get it done while the weather is still good.

Thanks again for an excellent, detailed write-up of your experience.

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btw, what brand and type spark plugs are you gonna be using? just curious....i know they are supposed to be iridium tipped correct?
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Type of spark plugs

I found iridium tipped Champions at Pep Boys for about $6 each, so I went with those. I think the iridium tip is the key issue more than the brand. I imagine it had Densos or NGKs in from the factory. But I don't know...I haven't seen them yet!
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Thanks so much for your thoughtful and detailed description of the process you followed. You make no mention of the plug on the left. Did you access that from the left side?
The left side (passenger side) plug on the rear front of the engine, is not too hard to get out - basically just a little warm up for the two hard ones. Accessed from the passenger side to remove it.
One important tip i forgot, i bought a special wrench from harbor freight just for this project. It is called "Sidewinder" and it cost me $10. It has a little handle on the end of the big handle and allows you to turn the socket in this tight area, without turning the big handle. I'm not sure how i would have gotten the middle plug out without it.
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Champion plugs suck. The only plugs worse are Bosch.

Get the OE plugs. Why screw around when they aren't expensive and it's a pain to change them.

Also, it's easier and faster just to remove the manifold/plenum.
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Get the OE plugs. Why screw around when they aren't expensive and it's a pain to change them.
Yeah, the OE plugs on the Camry were either Denso or NGK depending on the individual car, when it was built, and where it was built. My car had NGK's from factory, and I changed them to the NGK Iridium IX a little while back. I've seen some Camrys with Denso from factory. Either brand will be the best to use. I've heard of lots of people having misfiring issues with Bosch and Champion plugs.
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