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Old 07-17-2007, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 2007 SE Camry ride stock VS TRD springs

How is the ride of the V6 Toyota Camry SE with TRD springs compare with the stock ride (it is plenty sporty and firm stock)? I'm interested in lowering my vehicle but I like the way it rides right now and don't really want to compromise that. I do however want to ditch the wheel gap...
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you might wanna consider eibachs then... i don't have any firsthand experience, but from what i've heard the eibach pro-kit offers a moderate drop (like -1.4"F/-1.1"R or thereabout), and a very close to stock-feeling ride with improved handling...
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I dont have an SE, but I have an LE now with TRD springs, along with 18's and low-profile tires.

I'm a teenager so I dont really mind a bit rougher ride, but I still wouldnt consider my current setup to be rough, at least no where near as rough as riding in some SUV's with very stiff suspension. Since I installed the TRD springs, the car handles MUCH better, I can take those 25-35mph on-ramps at about 45-50 without feeling like im going to lose control.

In the end, when used with low-profile tires, the ride will be a bit rougher and you will feel the bumps in the road more, but it is well worth it IMO.
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you might wanna consider eibachs then... i don't have any firsthand experience, but from what i've heard the eibach pro-kit offers a moderate drop (like -1.4"F/-1.1"R or thereabout), and a very close to stock-feeling ride with improved handling...
Do you know how much drop the TRD gives?

Also is the ride a stock for an XLE or stock for an SE? The floaty ride what was turned me off to the XLE.
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Do you know how much drop the TRD gives?
i don't know off the top of my head, but i believe it's slightly lower than eibach... you can look it up on a place that sells the TRD springs...

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Also is the ride a stock for an XLE or stock for an SE? The floaty ride what was turned me off to the XLE.
i'm not sure i understand what you're asking... if you're asking what i'm referring to when i say stock ride, it could be any trim, as it's all relative... whether it's an XLE or an SE, it'll have the same effect, the SE will just be tighter as it has a tighter suspension, and the XLE will still have its soft suspension... it won't turn an XLE into an SE, but it'll improve handling somewhat... is that what you meant?
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you might wanna consider eibachs then... i don't have any firsthand experience, but from what i've heard the eibach pro-kit offers a moderate drop (like -1.4"F/-1.1"R or thereabout), and a very close to stock-feeling ride with improved handling...
I thought Eibach's were TRD
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i'm not sure i understand what you're asking... if you're asking what i'm referring to when i say stock ride, it could be any trim, as it's all relative... whether it's an XLE or an SE, it'll have the same effect, the SE will just be tighter as it has a tighter suspension, and the XLE will still have its soft suspension... it won't turn an XLE into an SE, but it'll improve handling somewhat... is that what you meant?
That's interesting with much different ratios and ride heights. Using stock struts with a different spring rate and height would definitely change the ride. I would venture a guess that is would make a CE/LE more like and SE and the XLE more like the base trims (assuming minimal change).
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I thought Eibach's were TRD
TRD is rebadged eibachs, but the eibach pro kit and the TRD kit offer slightly different drops...

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That's interesting with much different ratios and ride heights. Using stock struts with a different spring rate and height would definitely change the ride. I would venture a guess that is would make a CE/LE more like and SE and the XLE more like the base trims (assuming minimal change).
you have to realize that it's not the ride height but rather the shocks and struts that differentiate the LE/XLE from the SE... they both have the same springs stock... yes it will change the ride if you lower, but it won't be so dramatic as to change an XLE into an SE... if you want that effect, you'd have to swap out the struts and shocks for sportier ones such as the SE suspension...
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you might wanna consider eibachs then... i don't have any firsthand experience, but from what i've heard the eibach pro-kit offers a moderate drop (like -1.4"F/-1.1"R or thereabout), and a very close to stock-feeling ride with improved handling...
TRD springs are just rebadged Eibachs.

I went from a Hybrid to TRD in the front and SE springs in the rear (don't ask why, just search for my thread) and the TRD is much more harsh than my stock factory setup. I have some speed bumps at my workplace, and I used to not really feel them as I went over. Now with the TRD, it is a very jarring bump. Uneven roads can definitely be felt now (not anything too uncomfortable) whereas the stock springs made it very soft. But out on the open road, I don't really have any negative feelings, and the cornering performance is much better.
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Do you know how much drop the TRD gives?

Also is the ride a stock for an XLE or stock for an SE? The floaty ride what was turned me off to the XLE.
They say from 1"-1.5", but I believe it's more like 1" in the front, and 1.2" in the back.
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'm not sure i understand what you're asking... if you're asking what i'm referring to when i say stock ride, it could be any trim, as it's all relative... whether it's an XLE or an SE, it'll have the same effect, the SE will just be tighter as it has a tighter suspension, and the XLE will still have its soft suspension... it won't turn an XLE into an SE, but it'll improve handling somewhat... is that what you meant?
I test drove an XLE and an SE before I ended up with the SE. The suspension on the SE was much firmer than the suspension on the XLE. I liked the firmer ride/handling of the SE compared to the softer/floaty ride of the XLE. I would assume the ride of the TRD springs would be close to the ride of the SE (perhaps a bit harsher) but quite a bit stiffer than the XLE suspension.

From what I read each model of the Camry has its own suspension setup, XLE being the softest, SE being the stiffest. I was concerned that the TRD springs might make the ride stiffer than I would like. I don't want the ride to be any softer than the car is now though. I'm basically looking for the ride to stay just about the same as it is now on my SE, just lower.

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TRD springs are just rebadged Eibachs.

I went from a Hybrid to TRD in the front and SE springs in the rear (don't ask why, just search for my thread) and the TRD is much more harsh than my stock factory setup. I have some speed bumps at my workplace, and I used to not really feel them as I went over. Now with the TRD, it is a very jarring bump. Uneven roads can definitely be felt now (not anything too uncomfortable) whereas the stock springs made it very soft. But out on the open road, I don't really have any negative feelings, and the cornering performance is much better.
I test drove the XLE and the SE and I thought the SE felt exactly as you describe compared to the XLE. I liked the stiffer ride though, it seemed much more buttoned down even though it was stiffer.
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I test drove an XLE and an SE before I ended up with the SE. The suspension on the SE was much firmer than the suspension on the XLE. I liked the firmer ride/handling of the SE compared to the softer/floaty ride of the XLE. I would assume the ride of the TRD springs would be close to the ride of the SE (perhaps a bit harsher) but quite a bit stiffer than the XLE suspension.

From what I read each model of the Camry has its own suspension setup, XLE being the softest, SE being the stiffest. I was concerned that the TRD springs might make the ride stiffer than I would like. I don't want the ride to be any softer than the car is now though. I'm basically looking for the ride to stay just about the same as it is now on my SE, just lower.
I love the ride better with the TRD springs than stock but thats me. I'm in Camrys of all types all day and can't wait to to get back ride.
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I test drove an XLE and an SE before I ended up with the SE. The suspension on the SE was much firmer than the suspension on the XLE. I liked the firmer ride/handling of the SE compared to the softer/floaty ride of the XLE. I would assume the ride of the TRD springs would be close to the ride of the SE (perhaps a bit harsher) but quite a bit stiffer than the XLE suspension.

From what I read each model of the Camry has its own suspension setup, XLE being the softest, SE being the stiffest. I was concerned that the TRD springs might make the ride stiffer than I would like. I don't want the ride to be any softer than the car is now though. I'm basically looking for the ride to stay just about the same as it is now on my SE, just lower.
again i think you're misunderstanding the application of lowering springs... you can change the springs in an XLE, but it will still have an XLE suspension... lowering springs does not = the suspension... the suspension itself is comprised of shocks and struts... changing the lowering springs does not equate to a tighter suspension... yes it will improve your handling somewhat, but you'll still have the same suspension...
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again i think you're misunderstanding the application of lowering springs... you can change the springs in an XLE, but it will still have an XLE suspension... lowering springs does not = the suspension... the suspension itself is comprised of shocks and struts... changing the lowering springs does not equate to a tighter suspension... yes it will improve your handling somewhat, but you'll still have the same suspension...
Talk about confusion and oversimplification making things complicated. The ride is stiffer than what it is in stock form, end of story.
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