5th & 6th Generation (2002-2006 & 2007-2011)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 2002-2006 & 2007-2011
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Ok, now for the record I love my '07 I4 Camry LE automatic, except for a few minor annoyances. Most of which being it's lack of response, and overall sluggishness it seems to experience. Sometimes it'll take off like a bat out of hell, other times when I mash the gas to make a quick move, it decides it doesn't want to do what I ask, and takes off slowly, then has a sudden "oh you wanna go fast?!" moment then it'll take off. Not jerky, but a quicker acceleration than it originally started with. Also, in the morning when I leave home, it takes off slowly, and comes what I feel is dangerously close to jerking while accelerating. I can feel it trying, without actually shaking the car. Is this a DBW problem, ECM or both? I had an '05 Jetta (old style) before this car, which apparently has a DBW setup, yet I had no problems with it. In fact, i didn't realize it had a DBW setup in it until I started reading here about the Camry's DBW Although i guess the fact I couldn't find the throttle arm under the hood one day should've said something too..
I see there's a new TSB out for the I4 '07s, and I may give the dealership a call and see how many arms I need to twist to get my car's ECM reflashed.. Which if they give me any grief, I'm in pretty good with their General Manager, so I can probably get him to light a fire under someone's rear-end. The car is great otherwise, it's just those issues that drive me nuts sometimes.
Looks like you're in the same boat as Lammydi, should've got the V6!
It all has to do with how much someone wants to spend initially, and thereafter. However, I've always thought that a 4-cylinder inside a full-size sedan is a very peculiar thing.
I mean, at least mate the same 6-speed manumatic tranny to the I4 Camrys. Then you'd get better acceleration and fuel economy, and increased fun factor!
It's like running a Chevy Suburban with a 6-cylinder engine.
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Have the same problem. Not sure why. If Toyota makes the Camry 4-Cylinder, it should still respond correctly. Got the 4-Cylinder for that extra edge on gas but seriously, this is pretty annoying.
I don't want this to sound like a rant on anyone but when I was looking at the cars I went back and looked at curb weights of the previous generations of Camrys and divided those weights by the I4 engine horsepowers. This gave me a weight to horsepower ratio and I noted that each time there was a change, the cars got bigger and heavier and at some point there just didn't seem to be enough power to get the car out of trouble. Most of you live at low elevations as do I, but I also drive to high elevations and honestly, if the car has just marginal horsepower in Miami, what do you think it is going to do at a red light in Colorado Springs at 6400 feet? People are complaining about buying an I4 with minimal power and then noting that it has no guts. Duh. The V6 in the Gen 6 is overkill. You really don't need to go 140 mph, but I understand it has fewer parts and is easier to build than the previous engine. Something closer to 200 horsepower would be a petter choice for the Camry than 158 hp. In the mean time, understand that the 4 cylinder version is going to be a sluggish car unless you can find a way to drop 300 pounds.
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i know exactly what u mean.....i drive these all day at my dealership, and sometimes when you hit the gas the car wont even budge, but other times it will take off like crazy....i have a gen 5 SE I4 and my car always responds enthusiacally when i hit the gas, and i also have DBW.....i guess the added weight of the gen 6 adds the strain on the 2az....the I4 gen 6 should at least have the 6 speed manumatic if not 180 or so HP....
Ok, now for the record I love my '07 I4 Camry LE automatic, except for a few minor annoyances. Most of which being it's lack of response, and overall sluggishness it seems to experience. Sometimes it'll take off like a bat out of hell, other times when I mash the gas to make a quick move, it decides it doesn't want to do what I ask, and takes off slowly, then has a sudden "oh you wanna go fast?!" moment then it'll take off. Not jerky, but a quicker acceleration than it originally started with. Also, in the morning when I leave home, it takes off slowly, and comes what I feel is dangerously close to jerking while accelerating. I can feel it trying, without actually shaking the car. Is this a DBW problem, ECM or both? I had an '05 Jetta (old style) before this car, which apparently has a DBW setup, yet I had no problems with it. In fact, i didn't realize it had a DBW setup in it until I started reading here about the Camry's DBW Although i guess the fact I couldn't find the throttle arm under the hood one day should've said something too..
I see there's a new TSB out for the I4 '07s, and I may give the dealership a call and see how many arms I need to twist to get my car's ECM reflashed.. Which if they give me any grief, I'm in pretty good with their General Manager, so I can probably get him to light a fire under someone's rear-end. The car is great otherwise, it's just those issues that drive me nuts sometimes.
Twist arms??
Take it in and tell them you want the new TSB done.
might be the TSB.. the gen5 of ours doesnt hav that problem at all.. only like on cold start ups but its common...but our gen6 does...were gonna get it checked soon
each time there was a change, the cars got bigger and heavier and at some point there just didn't seem to be enough power to get the car out of trouble.
This is a trend in the industry right now as the same thing is true for the new Civic which used to be a quick car. It's now bigger with the same engine and it's no surprise that it is now slowere. I bought a 2006 rather than the new 2007 becasue i wanted good mpg and power to move when I need to. The bigger 2007 realy needs a V6 and then you are looking at a lot less MPG. The gen 5 really fit my personal needs much better.
My Friend who works at the Newburgh Auto Auction, and he was telling me they have about 32 07 Camry's! Johnston Toyota, my local dealership has 16 07's for sale! Doing a search on AutoTrader.com for 2007 Used Camry's within a 100 miles area, I get 473 results!!! Why are there so many 1 year old Gen6's for sale?
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Another "my 07 is sluggish!" thread
Although i guess the fact I couldn't find the throttle arm under the hood one day should've said something too.. 
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