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Old 08-31-2007, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yokohama Avid V4S versus Michelin Energy MXV4 S8

About time for tires on my 2002 Camry XLE. Have Michelin MXV4 Plus energy X green... But these are tooo expensive even on tire rack.


I found these 2 again on tire rack (both V rated) . Any opinions pl?

Michelin Energy MXV4 S8
(Grand Touring All-Season)
Size: 215/60VR16
Style: Toyota
Serv. Desc: 94V
UTQG: 440 A A
Orig. Price: $149.00 (each)
$107.00 Special


Yokohama AVID V4S
(High Performance All-Season)
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Size: 215/60VR16
Serv. Desc: 94V
UTQG: 500 AA A
Price: $84.00 (each)
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have heared all good things about the Yokohama AVID V4S. They are good value for the price and quality.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow, those are high tread wear!
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NO TO THE MXV4 S8'S

they're stock on the camry se

stay the fuck away, god they're horrible
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I had put the Yokohama's on my 2004 Solara SE Sport V6, and they were great. Low noise, great handling, fantastic treadwear, and I used to beat up on them pretty good, especially close to the end of my lease. The only complaint was in the snow, they are not good at all, even for an "all-season" tire. But it looks like you're in NC, so you probably don't have to worry about it.

They are definitely better than any OEM tire from Toyota right now.
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Yokohama hands down. I have them on 5/6 cars in the family. I've had them in 225/40 18 that came with a 60k treadwear warranty, I've had the H4/V4 and on my wifes Highlander the Yoko Geolanders. When my customers ask about tires I recommend Yoko's hands down, you won't be disappointed. I ran 225/55 16 in the snow and had no problems either, I'm waiting for my tires that came with the wheels I just got to wear down so I can replace them with Yokos.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, those are high tread wear!
The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA) Uniform Tire Quality Grade Standards (UTQG) were originated to provide consumers with useful information to help them purchase tires based on their relative treadwear, traction and temperature capabilities. While it is required by law for most passenger car tires sold in the United States, it is not required for deep treaded light truck tires or winter tires.
When looking at UTQG ratings it is important to realize that the Department of Transportation does not conduct the tests. The grades are assigned by the tire manufacturers based on their test results or those conducted by an independent testing company they have hired. The NHTSA has the right to inspect the tire manufacturer's data and can fine them if inconsistencies are found. While most new tire lines have their grades established when they are introduced, they are allowed a 6-month grace period to allow the tire manufacturer to test actual production tires. Once a grade is assigned it must be branded on the tire's upper sidewall and printed on its label.
Unfortunately, the rating that is of the most interest to consumers is the one that appears to be the least consistent. While the Treadwear Grade was originally intended to be assigned purely scientifically, it has also become a marketing tool used by manufacturers to help position and promote their tires.



I spoke with a tire distributor and he educated me on this. If Michelin says their treadwear rating is 400, it's in comparison to other Michelin tires. A 400 treadwear rating on a Michelin and a 400 treadwear rating on a Dunlop are not equal. <~just used those for example, but it applies to all manufacturers.
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NO TO THE MXV4 S8'S

they're stock on the camry se

stay the fuck away, god they're horrible
I am in the same boat and my MXV4 Plus are about worn out. Grumbles, could you please explain what you did not like about the MXV4 S8. The Tire Rack Ranks the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S as #1 tire for my Camry. I know that some people have said that the MXV4 series hydroplane, but I have never had this happen to me. I realize that Tire Rack is a performance minded tire site, so mabey this is why some of the reviews are not so good for the MXV4. I just drive fast, so I like my tires to be quiet at 75mph. The only complaint that I have with the MXV4 series is that because of the tire compound and low rolling resistance for better MPG, they cause static electricty and will SHOCK the hell out of you when you get out of the car in cold weather. On the good side, I get 32mpg on the turnpike and old tires are still wisper quite.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i have the yokohamas on my car now for about 2-3 months and i love em! holds really well and they look really good too:







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yokohama's the way to go
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the MXV4 plus x-green energy blah blah that are on my XLE now seems to wear very fast...

Now i don't know how the MXV4 S8 compares to the MXV4 plus (The plus is abt $145 or more even on tire rack).
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I'm getting Yokohama Avid TRZ tires this week for my '07 Camry. Picked them over the Michelin Energy. Either one will give a better ride than the crap Bridgestone tires that are stock on the LE's, but I was very impressed with the 80k warranty on the Yokohama tires.
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I think you'd be happier with the Avids than the TRZ's. The Avids have a sportier feel, the TRZ last so long because of their hard compound. Not a bad ride, I have them on my dad's 1996 Camry LE I4, but that was because Avids don't come in that size.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I had the Yoko TRZs on my old 97 Camry. Great tires, quiet, good in snow. Only had them on the car for 15,000 miles before it sold the car. They had a funny squirm on grooved concrete highways. I'd buy them again for my 08 Camry.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I haven't had either tire personally but have had both Michelin and Yokohama. Both are great tires. Michelin does seem to have the ride and handling figured out better than anyone else. Yokohama tires seem to follow road crown and ruts more than any other tire that I've experienced.

As far as grumbles goes, you can never know what's the truth with him. It depends on his mood I guess. He doesn't post facts, just his BS. In the past he has said this about the Michelins:

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I got 27,000 miles out of my OEM Michelins, the MXV4 S8's. They were horrible tires, they didn't ride very well, they gripped like shit, hydroplaned like crazy, and were terrible in the snow. Just...


SE V6, Michelin MXV4 S8.
They're pretty good tires. I'm keeping them until winter comes.
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