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Old 09-03-2007, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 07-08 Camry HID Hi Beams

When you do the HID upgrade for the H11 bulbs does that give you HID Hi Beams too or are you still stuck with the factory ones. Also has anyone put HID on their fog lights. I've done some searching but couldn't find anything about this.
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No, in our Camrys the lo and hi beams are two seperate bulbs. The lo-beams are H11, while the high beams are 9005. Not many people need to replace high beams to HID bulbs, it is highly unnecessary, and even bad for the bulbs. You only use high beams to flicker them most of the time, and flickering HIDs are damaging to its lifespan.

You can just buy an H11 HID kit for your fogs, I have 2500K Nokya H11 halogen bulbs and they look fine, but an HID kit woul;d look great on the fogs.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Gen6 high beams

i wouldn't do hids on high beams anyway cause they are also part of your drl system.
not sure how it will work but i don't think the outcome will be good
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i wouldn't do hids on high beams anyway cause they are also part of your drl system.
not sure how it will work but i don't think the outcome will be good
I'll tell you how it will work. See, DRLs are drawing low power, right?

So if you have a HID kit in there, you will see a flicker of the bulbs, but they will NOT ignite because there's insufficient power.

If you flash your lights for 1 second, then the HIDs will ignite because they will get that needed boost in power. Then they will remain on, but there will be terrible glare due to the reflector housing.

In other words, please don't do it.
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People put HIDs in their fogs all the time. As for HIDs in their hi-beams, not so many.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Do NOT put HIDs in your fogs. It is dangerous because it WILL glare and blind other drivers, and does not look good. You will instantly become a cop magnet (and to be honest, if you do put them in your fogs, then thats a good thing, because they won't be there for long).

And Yazovets is right about the HID high beams. Its a terrible idea.
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Yep, HID in highs or fogs, not a great idea. May I suggest Hoens or Nokyas. I just got a pair of hoen xenon match bulbs for my fogs to match the color of my 4300K lows, just an idea. Hoen also sells yellow fogs as well.
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And Yazovets is right about the HID high beams. Its a terrible idea.
Is the only reason because of the DRL's? It seems like it would be a good idea since HID's are alot brighter, they would light up the road and surrounding areas quite well. If you don't use your DRL's, would it still not be a good idea?
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Is the only reason because of the DRL's? It seems like it would be a good idea since HID's are alot brighter, they would light up the road and surrounding areas quite well. If you don't use your DRL's, would it still not be a good idea?
Actually, it wouldn't. Because of the reflector housing, you would have light in all sorts of places where you don't want it, and little light where you actually do want it.

EDIT: Its the exact same reason you wouldn't put HIDs in low beam halogen housings. Light spreads all over the place, except for where you really need it. You have to remember-- halogen housings are designed for only around 800-900 lumens of light or so. So the light doesn't bounce around so much inside the reflectors and doesn't glare. But you stick a 3000+ lumen HID bulb in there, and the light bounces all over the damn place.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Actually, it wouldn't. Because of the reflector housing, you would have light in all sorts of places where you don't want it, and little light where you actually do want it.

EDIT: Its the exact same reason you wouldn't put HIDs in low beam halogen housings. Light spreads all over the place, except for where you really need it. You have to remember-- halogen housings are designed for only around 800-900 lumens of light or so. So the light doesn't bounce around so much inside the reflectors and doesn't glare. But you stick a 3000+ lumen HID bulb in there, and the light bounces all over the damn place.
exactly... and for the same reason, you wouldn't put HID's in the foglights... they aren't designed for HID's, the light would be scattered, probably inferior to halogen, and you'd have tons of glare, probably blinding people... if you wanna upgrade the foglights, just throw in some 2500K nokya halogens and call it a day...
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One other thing, you definitely didn't "search" hard enough, because I know that I have mentioned all this about HID fogs on several occasions on the forum.
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Is the only reason because of the DRL's? It seems like it would be a good idea since HID's are alot brighter, they would light up the road and surrounding areas quite well. If you don't use your DRL's, would it still not be a good idea?
The reflection of the high beam is more upwards than to the sides. The low beam projects nicely to the sides. You can switch the DRL off and save the bulb and ballasts if you want them in the high beam. But it wouldn't do much really since the eye can only see so much and the halogen highs do a good job with the lighting output.

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One other thing, you definitely didn't "search" hard enough, because I know that I have mentioned all this about HID fogs on several occasions on the forum.
Searching on a forum? Psh that is so last year.
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Thanks for answering my question, but on my way home Iw as also thinking it was a bad idea because you often flash your high beams on and off when traffic comes, so it would probably kill the HID's pretty soon.
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Wow, what's the deal with people attacking new posters with low post counts. I'm not going to spend countless hours searching and reading when I can post and get the answer much quicker. I have spent a few hours reading about HIDs and these are the questions I still had.

Anyways I didn't see any posts where someone actually installed fog lights on this model so I thought I'd ask. They said you could do it and that is it. Also nobody ever mentioned having XENON's for their high beams.

Thanks for all the help everyone.
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Do NOT put HIDs in your fogs. It is dangerous because it WILL glare and blind other drivers, and does not look good. You will instantly become a cop magnet (and to be honest, if you do put them in your fogs, then thats a good thing, because they won't be there for long).
just want to add that if you have reflector fogs, its a very bad idea to put HIDs in there. however, decent projector fogs with a clean cutoff are a good candidate for HIDs... some may debate that 3000k is a better color temp to use vs 4300k, but i believe its more personal preference.

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Anyways I didn't see any posts where someone actually installed fog lights on this model so I thought I'd ask. They said you could do it and that is it. Also nobody ever mentioned having XENON's for their high beams.
pretty sure there's a couple threads on hid's in gen 6 fog lights... threads with some pics too. nobody mentions hid's in high beams because very few do it... its just a bad idea.

no one is attacking you... just some friendly advice! trust me... there have been far worse replies, what you've got now is nothing.
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