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Old 09-04-2007, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Turbo vs Supercharger

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I'm new to Toyotanation site. I was looking for ways to make my 4 cyl 2003 Camry LE a little faster! All sort of ideas passed thru my mind and by the time I finished price tag ran about $8g's for all the custom parts & labor to make it better handling & faster. I am NO racer or speed freak... However, there's something about a Camry that looks Bold with 17" Chrome Wheels/Spor tires, buffered & polished with DVD/Navi receiver, pumping out bass thru sub preout with single 10" Kenwood enclosed in the trunk; and the best part is saved for the last; floor the pedal and it GOOOOOS with WHOOOOOOSH!!! I was thinking to put a Turbo kit in stock engine with 68k miles, but will I have to change the intake & exhaust manifold or headers or EFI pump or other components to handle extra boost? I was thinking about 7-8 psi of boost would make it quicker to change lanes and leave Porsche owners puzzled?! I am expecting that will add about 70-80 horsepower to already capable 154 hp motor, making it around 220-240 hp. Can anyone provide me with advise or direct me in a right path? I hate going to Civic tuning shops where all they do is drop the ride, put an axhause so big you can stick your head in there, and flashing HID headlights..... You get the picture. I'm not a teenager, I am looking to make this a solid ride with taste and some ooooomph!!! Can anyone help me please?!
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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^The Scion tC shares the same motor. You may want to look up Scion parts which will bolt on to the Camry.

Edit: I haven't been around this car much, but I'd assume the s/c would bolt right up with very little fabrication, while if you're going the turbo route, there is a lot of custom work.

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't feel like getting ino specific detiails right now, too lazy. Yes, you will have to change some of your engine components with a turbo manifold, turboback exhaust, intercooler, etc. Personally, I would beef up the auto tranny with a torque converter, auto tranny cooler, and etc. also.
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would it be the same price to get the 3.3 Liter engine swap? it has 225 HP at the crank, also could free some with some exhaust mods.
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Does anyone know the fitment for the s/c?

Because I'm sure this guy would enjoy forced induction much more than a swap (even if its slightly less power)...
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Does anyone know the fitment for the s/c?

Because I'm sure this guy would enjoy forced induction much more than a swap (even if its slightly less power)...

yeah forced induction does sound cooler than just a swap.
but then you get a newer engine!

I dunno the fitment.
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the scion tC turbo kits and supercharger can be adapted to the camry equipped with the 2az 4 cyl, however custom work will be required....more so with the turbo but minorly with the supercharger....
on tur turbo youd need to worry about exhuast manifolds, turbo back exhuast and various other componmets....if its auto id reccomend upgrading the trans, getting a cooler and a torque converter
the supercharger im told bolts almost directly up....a few mindor custom mounts are needed to get it secured in the camry engine bay, and some ecu reporgramming is needed but it will boost power safely and efficently as it does in the tC

i have seen custom turbos on the 1mz V6 as well....so i know for a fact that that is possible

im sure this has been covered on here a few times....there should be some threads on it floating around
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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^That's what i figured.

To the original poster. THIS is your solution!
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Roots type superchargers don't increase sound much. Maybe not at all. Turbo charging makes lots of nice noises at higher boost. Especially when the blow off valve pops. Thats why turbo's are so much more common. Supercharging will give you a much better solution for more power in everyday driving though.
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Wow, I just postes msg 2 hours ago...

Thank you guys, to whoever took part in this thread! I was thinking that turbo will require a lot more work, which I'm sure is justified by the ones who're looking for the sound and looks of bigger exhaust. You guys are absolutely right, supercharger will fit my Camry better for what I'm looking for than a turbo charger. That extra oooomph, will be greatly appreciated especially in Colorado where altitude is around 6000 feet above sea level, and 4 cyl cars are gasping for oxygen.

Last question; where can I get a turbo kit? Dealer? TRD? Maybe someone knows a custom tuner who sells them?

Thanks, guys. I really appreciate all your responses!
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^Camry's aren't really the "tuners" car so it's very rare that you will find a Turbo kit made specifically for the camry.

You can use the tC turbo kit (I think a couple companies make it, Greddy for one), since it shares the same engine, but there is a lot of money that is going to be wasted in unused piping since the tC's engine bay is configured differently.

The only real benefit a turbo will have over your Turbo is that a Turbo is easier to tune for high power (which isn't one of your goals). Superchargers are generally considered more reliable, and aren't as common because they are pretty expensive to design and manufacture.

One more thing, a Turbo kit does not entail a bigger exhaust. A freer flowing exhaust system would be in addition.
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greddy makes the tC 2azfe turbo kit, im aware of a turbonetics kit as well
turbonetics seen here
http://www.turbo-kits.com/tC_turbo_kits.html

as for the 1mzfe V6 turbo kits, that is strictly custom
example of 1mz turbo kit as seen on a gen 3 (same engine)
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t208070.html

the 1mzfe supercharger from TRD can also be added to V6 equipped gen 5's as well....it will also require custom work, esp for SE guys who have the 3mz
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^Is TRD the only company who makes the s/c for that motor (i4)?
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to my knowlage yes, TRD is the only company making superchargers for both the 2azfe I-4 and the 1mzfe V6
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to my knowlage yes, TRD is the only company making superchargers for both the 2azfe I-4 and the 1mzfe V6
wow that gen3 is nice, looks like he had to relocate his battery, but I can see how he did it. Ingenius!

Didn't TRD stopped making the 1MZ-FE supercharger? I've also heard that people are selling "not up to par" Superchargers on ebay.
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