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Old 10-04-2007, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen6 RPM @ 70 & 80

What RPM does the 3.5 run at 70 and 80 mph? I am trying to select tires and wheels before my Camry arrives and need the rpm's to figure out how much it will affect gearing.
BTW- I am trying to decide between a 215/55/17 and a 225/50/17. I really like the Pirelli PZeroNero M+S, I've had three sets on different cars, and the closest size I can find is the 225/50; there isn't much in the 215/55 I like.

edit: I accidentally put Gen5 in my original title.

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What RPM does the 3.5 run at 70 and 80 mph? I am trying to select tires and wheels before my Camry arrives and need the rpm's to figure out how much it will affect gearing.
BTW- I am trying to decide between a 215/55/17 and a 225/50/17. I really like the Pirelli PZeroNero M+S, I've had three sets on different cars, and the closest size I can find is the 225/50; there isn't much in the 215/55 I like.
So you're going to change the gearing?

All you really need is the overall tire diameter. Use the Tire Rack website to pick an appropriate sized tire and/or wheel.
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So you're going to change the gearing?

All you really need is the overall tire diameter. Use the Tire Rack website to pick an appropriate sized tire and/or wheel.
No, but using a smaller diameter tire will affect gearing; causing the engine to run a (very slightly) higher RPM at the same speed as the stock size.

Here's the formula

(Original Tire Diameter / New Tire Diameter) X RPM@MPH = New RPM @ actual MPH

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No, but using a smaller diameter tire will affect gearing; causing the engine to run a (very slightly) higher RPM at the same speed as the stock size.

Here's the formula

(Original Tire Diameter / New Tire Diameter) X RPM@MPH = New RPM @ actual MPH
are you recalibrating your speedometer?

This is a good question for Gen 5's too (at least for me) -- at 80 I run at 3kRPM. My old 95 I4 runs around the same 3k RPM at 80 too. I thought it would be lower RPMs just because it was a V6.

Any one know why by any chance?

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Just to help you answer your question...
At 70 I usually run a solid 2K rpm. At 80 I start touching 2.3K to 2.4K rpm.

I have 245/35/19 so my diameter is lightly smaller but within the safe 3% range.
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I'm not going to recalibrate the speedo, it will only be off .5-.75 mph with a 225/50/17. I am just trying to find out how much higher rpm's will be at hwy speeds due to the slightly smaller tire diameter. It's going to be in the 20-30 rpm range. I'm pretty set on a 225/50, I just wanted to get an accurate number.
~30 rpm would have a negligible effect on mpg's and performance, correct?
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Just to help you answer your question...
At 70 I usually run a solid 2K rpm. At 80 I start touching 2.3K to 2.4K rpm.

I have 245/35/19 so my diameter is lightly smaller but within the safe 3% range.
Thanks Reprod. I know there are many other factors, but what's your hwy mpg's?
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~30 rpm would have a negligible effect on mpg's and performance, correct?
Less than negligible.
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Thanks Reprod. I know there are many other factors, but what's your hwy mpg's?

I've never looked into my highway MPG because I have an SE and we dont get that nice in dash comp the XLE's get. Not to mention I go back and forth between city driving and highway driving. Sorry I cant help out more.
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I'm not going to recalibrate the speedo, it will only be off .5-.75 mph with a 225/50/17. I am just trying to find out how much higher rpm's will be at hwy speeds due to the slightly smaller tire diameter. It's going to be in the 20-30 rpm range. I'm pretty set on a 225/50, I just wanted to get an accurate number.
~30 rpm would have a negligible effect on mpg's and performance, correct?
I think you wont have any effect at all, speedo will be almost identical too
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Discover the actual circumference of the two tires you are considering and calculate the percentage difference.
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Thanks for the input. I ordered Enkei RP-F1's and Pirelli PZeroNero M+S 225/50/17 saturday. The difference is only 1.1% and I don't think it will matter.
I'll drive on stock springs until (if) they come out with a Gen6 sway bar then I'll give the suspension some attention.
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Nice tires... I love those Pirelli's PZero's. I would of gotten those but I didn't want to pay the $$$.

Congrats on the purchase and some nice wheels. Pics please after install.
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