HELP!!! installed a/m Fog-Light, but still not working (2007 Camry CE)

[vtd]

2007 Camry CE has Fog-Light prewired. (Made in Japan)

I installed:
1_OEM stalk (lever part number: 84140-33200). (I turned the key and tested all the lights, they worked, except Fog-lights).

2_OEM Relay (part number: 9008087010, it was superceded for 90987-02027): plugged to the last plug, bottom left of ECU, right above the Parking brake (it was the only one vacant). Also tried to plug the good PRW-Relay (part#: 90987-02027) to Fog-relay plug, but did not work.... so definitely, not the Relay.

3_After market Fog lights:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-07-Toyota-Camry-Crystal-Glass-Fog-Lights-Set-2pcs_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33709QQihZ012QQite mZ220156039700QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


-Fog lights are still not working? I even replaced the (fog light) fuse. Do you have any ideas or suggestions to troubleshoot/fix it? Thanks.

[rydr1]

sorry that i cant be much help but im interested in putting fogs on my wifes car so please let us know what the problem was.

if i may ask, where there about 3-4 wires connecting to the light switch?
reason im asking is because when i looked into this i noticed that the wires go into a module so im wondering if there is a coding that needs to be done.

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by vtd

2007 Camry CE has Fog-Light prewired.

I installed:
1_OEM stalk (lever part number: 84140-33200). (I turned the key and tested all the lights, they worked, except Fog-lights).

2_OEM Relay (part number: 9008087010, it was superceded for 90987-02027): plugged to the last plug, bottom left of ECU, right above the Parking brake (it was the only one vacant). Also tried to plug the good PRW-Relay (part#: 90987-02027) to Fog-relay plug, but did not work.... so definitely, not the Relay.

3_After market Fog lights:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-07-Toyota-Camry-Crystal-Glass-Fog-Lights-Set-2pcs_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33709QQihZ012QQite mZ220156039700QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


-Fog lights are still not working? I even replaced the (fog light) fuse. Do you have any ideas or suggestions to troubleshoot/fix it? Thanks.

Do you have a volt meter or a test light, to assist with the troubleshooting?

I did some research on the P/N 84140-33200, you have listed. I am not sure it is the correct one. Do you have the fog lamp switch position on the stalk? The correct switch P/N I found is: 8414006260. This can be located at <http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=searchCatalogOEM&siteid=214074>. The descriptor is: Electrical - Chassis electrical - Switches - Headlamp switch Headlamp switch, camry, 2.4l, 3.0l, w/fog lamps, w/o drl, w/drl 2005 - 2006. Your P/N comes up as: Steering column - Shroud switches and levers - Dimmer switch - Xle
Xle - Japan built 2007 (no mention of fog lamp option) You can check out the rest of the Fog Light operation by taking a paper clip cutting it and make a small "U" shaped jumper. Then insert the "jumper" between pins 3 & 4 on the wire side of the connector that plugs into the switch. This will simulate the "missing" part of the switch. If you do this the fogs will operate "normally' with the exception of not being able to "disable" the operation from the stalk. The fog lights will turn off in High Beam mode and if the tail lights are off. I have not tested this, but if the wires are missing in the switch that goes to the Headlamp part, try the jumper to pins 4 & 12. This will turn on the fog lamps all of the time IF the tail lamps are on. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!! :>)

[njerald]

Originally Posted by Luna2

I did some research on the P/N 84140-33200, you have listed. I am not sure it is the correct one. Do you have the fog lamp switch position on the stalk? The correct switch P/N I found is: 8414006260. This can be located at <http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=searchCatalogOEM&siteid=214074>. The descriptor is: Electrical - Chassis electrical - Switches - Headlamp switch Headlamp switch, camry, 2.4l, 3.0l, w/fog lamps, w/o drl, w/drl 2005 - 2006. Your P/N comes up as: Steering column - Shroud switches and levers - Dimmer switch - Xle
Xle - Japan built 2007 (no mention of fog lamp option)

BS, the XLE has fogs std...............

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by njerald

BS, the XLE has fogs std...............

What was listed in the original thread was a "CE".

[njerald]

Originally Posted by Luna2

What was listed in the original thread was a "CE".

Good God, he wants a switch with fogs (std. XLE), not a switch like he already has!

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by njerald

Good God, he wants a switch with fogs (std. XLE), not a switch like he already has!

SO " I did some research on the P/N 84140-33200, you have listed. I am not sure it is the correct one. Do you have the fog lamp switch position on the stalk? The correct switch P/N I found is: 8414006260." will work?

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by rydr1

sorry that i cant be much help but im interested in putting fogs on my wifes car so please let us know what the problem was.

if i may ask, where there about 3-4 wires connecting to the light switch?
reason im asking is because when i looked into this i noticed that the wires go into a module so im wondering if there is a coding that needs to be done.

I take it you have an LE.???
If you do, the wiring of the fog lamp relay and power do not enter the ECU computer. They are routed through the housing to the relay and fuse mounted on the back side of the ECU computer accessible from the side with the fuses. The "stalk" FOG position and headlight switch provides the correct routing to ground and break that connection when the "High Beam" function is activated. No programming or coding is required. Other people on this forum have completed this with no problems. The expense is in the correct switch (with fog option)/ relay (missing) and the correct fog lamps with cutouts (to keep the OEM look).

[rydr1]

^thanks for clearing that up man.

[vtd]

Originally Posted by Luna2

Do you have a volt meter or a test light, to assist with the troubleshooting?

I did some research on the P/N 84140-33200, you have listed. I am not sure it is the correct one. Do you have the fog lamp switch position on the stalk? The correct switch P/N I found is: 8414006260. This can be located at <http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=searchCatalogOEM&siteid=214074>. The descriptor is: Electrical - Chassis electrical - Switches - Headlamp switch Headlamp switch, camry, 2.4l, 3.0l, w/fog lamps, w/o drl, w/drl 2005 - 2006. Your P/N comes up as: Steering column - Shroud switches and levers - Dimmer switch - Xle
Xle - Japan built 2007 (no mention of fog lamp option) You can check out the rest of the Fog Light operation by taking a paper clip cutting it and make a small "U" shaped jumper. Then insert the "jumper" between pins 3 & 4 on the wire side of the connector that plugs into the switch. This will simulate the "missing" part of the switch. If you do this the fogs will operate "normally' with the exception of not being able to "disable" the operation from the stalk. The fog lights will turn off in High Beam mode and if the tail lights are off. I have not tested this, but if the wires are missing in the switch that goes to the Headlamp part, try the jumper to pins 4 & 12. This will turn on the fog lamps all of the time IF the tail lamps are on. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!! :>)

Lunas2 & rydr1, I’ve tested both bulbs, they’re good.
_Yes, the new OEM stalk (P/N: 84140-33200) has Fog lamp switch position.

There is a 20-pin connector (but there are only 8 wires) plugs into the (stalk) switch control,…. Do you know which one for which?
1-pink
2-(dark)green
3-Black (parking light – I know this one for sure, because I installed it for alarm).
4-Red
5-none
6-blue
7-none
8-orange
9-White/black
10-(light)green.
11-to-20: none.

Wires going to aftermarket Fog light:
-Right side- Red and White/black
-Left side– Yellow + White/black.

_I used paper clip and jumped: 3 & 4; 8 & 9, and others…. None of them turned the Fog-lights on.
… hope I didn’t get the wrong switch…. Has anyone successfully (or unsuccessfully) installed Fog light with this OEM-Switch (P/N 84140-33200) before????

[njerald]

Did you put a fuse in the foglight fuse location?

Have you gone through the troubleshooting sections of the service manual?

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by vtd

Lunas2 & rydr1, I’ve tested both bulbs, they’re good.
_Yes, the new OEM stalk (P/N: 84140-33200) has Fog lamp switch position.

There is a 20-pin connector (but there are only 8 wires) plugs into the (stalk) switch control,…. Do you know which one for which?
1-pink
2-(dark)green
3-Black (parking light – I know this one for sure, because I installed it for alarm).
4-Red
5-none
6-blue
7-none
8-orange
9-White/black
10-(light)green.
11-to-20: none.

Wires going to aftermarket Fog light:
-Right side- Red and White/black
-Left side– Yellow + White/black.

_I used paper clip and jumped: 3 & 4; 8 & 9, and others…. None of them turned the Fog-lights on.
… hope I didn’t get the wrong switch…. Has anyone successfully (or unsuccessfully) installed Fog light with this OEM-Switch (P/N 84140-33200) before????

You are reading the connector wrong.
The correct order is:
20 = pink = Head Light on
19 = green (dark) = DRL (Auto)
18 = black = Tail (Park)
17 = red = High Beam (Flash)
16 = white = Jumper between Fog function and headlight function (may not be there, could be inside switch)
12 = white/balck = chassis ground
11 = light green = Head light (High Beam)
4 = violet = Fog Lights (OEM relay pull down)
3 = white = jumps to 16 (same as 16)

This info was found in Overall Electrical Wiring Diagram (M page 448)
Tie 4 to 12 for test.
NOTE: The taillights / parking lights must be on to have power to the coil to activate the fog relay. (High Beam / Flash is supposed to turn them off.)

Thanks for the info on the stalk. I have not installed this in my car yet, but have checked the prints against the car. (just short of the switch connection plug.) I am holding off on this mod because of hesitation problems.

[vtd]

Originally Posted by njerald

Did you put a fuse in the foglight fuse location?

Have you gone through the troubleshooting sections of the service manual?

Yes, I've gone through the manual. I put one fuse in the fuse box (next to the engine) and also replaced the Fog-Light fuse below ECU.

[vtd]

Originally Posted by Luna2

You are reading the connector wrong.
The correct order is:
20 = pink = Head Light on
19 = green (dark) = DRL (Auto)
18 = black = Tail (Park)
17 = red = High Beam (Flash)
16 = white = Jumper between Fog function and headlight function (may not be there, could be inside switch)
12 = white/balck = chassis ground
11 = light green = Head light (High Beam)
4 = violet = Fog Lights (OEM relay pull down)
3 = white = jumps to 16 (same as 16)

This info was found in Overall Electrical Wiring Diagram (M page 448)
Tie 4 to 12 for test.
NOTE: The taillights / parking lights must be on to have power to the coil to activate the fog relay. (High Beam / Flash is supposed to turn them off.)

Thanks for the info on the stalk. I have not installed this in my car yet, but have checked the prints against the car. (just short of the switch connection plug.) I am holding off on this mod because of hesitation problems.

Lunas2, thanks for wires info.
On the new stalk, I also notice that there is a small separate plug with 2 wires (Black and Brown) right above where you plug the 20-pin connector into the stalk.
1-Should I try to test and tie the two (Black & Brown) wires with those 8-wires?

2- OR try to run the Fog-light wire below ECU unit (is it still violet) or from Fuse box (under the hood) and connect to the Stalk plug #4 or #12???

3- OR connect the negative:: Fogs to Headlights (under the hood) by tie:
_Left-Fog(White/black) to Left-Headlight(White/black).
_Right-Fog(white/black) to Right-Headlight(white/black) ....
I know it would defeat the purpose of using OEM-Stalk.....that will be the last solution.

((-Wires plug into stock head-lamps: Right side=Black + White/black(silver circle); Left=Brown + White/black(silver circle))

[Luna2]

Originally Posted by vtd

Lunas2, thanks for wires info.
On the new stalk, I also notice that there is a small separate plug with 2 wires (Black and Brown) right above where you plug the 20-pin connector into the stalk.
1-Should I try to test and tie the two (Black & Brown) wires with those 8-wires?

2- OR try to run the Fog-light wire below ECU unit (is it still violet) or from Fuse box (under the hood) and connect to the Stalk plug #4 or #12???

3- OR connect the negative:: Fogs to Headlights (under the hood) by tie:
_Left-Fog(White/black) to Left-Headlight(White/black).
_Right-Fog(white/black) to Right-Headlight(white/black) ....
I know it would defeat the purpose of using OEM-Stalk.....that will be the last solution.

((-Wires plug into stock head-lamps: Right side=Black + White/black(silver circle); Left=Brown + White/black(silver circle))

Don't do item 1.

Have you had the fog lights on at all?
Your first post indicates that you may have used the OEM wiring. If you did there is a simple test that could be done to check the under hood wiring. 1. 1. Remove the fog relay and the tail light relay.
2. Connect one end of a jumper wire between pin 3 of the fog light relay. (edge fat terminal) which feeds directly to the fog lights.
3. Connect the other end of a jumper wire between pin 5 of the taillight relay. (center fat terminal) always hot 12 volt source.

This will light up the fog lights, if the under hood wiring is correct.

If this works, the under hood wiring is OK. Let me know, we will proceed from there.